Asatru council?

Hey.


I am asking this because it has to do with 2 religions. Sry if you dint think its in the right spot.

Do any Asatruar who have a Miltie religious relationship have problems with the other person.


I love my girlfriend, but she has a serious problem with being a person who is a very people pleasing person and puts herself second feeling that she isn't as important.


any one feel me? and how do I help her be more self confident?
Tyr the Hero.

If you are Asatru.... or if you had read the myths you'd know that the Tyr I speak of is far from a betrayer based on what is left of his stories.
The Ferris was killing and maiming innocent people. Causing havoc.


He had predated oaths to fulfill. Like his oath to protect humanity, which all the gods but He forgot at the thought.


the Fenris named the terms. It was Tyr who stepped up to accept them. Not the other way around.
The fenris was killing and maiming innocent people. Causing havoc.


He had predated oaths to fulfill. Like his oath to protect humanity, which all the gods but He forgot at the thought.


the Fenris named the terms. It was Tyr who stepped up to accept them. Not the other way around.

Just out of curiosity, about your avatar... why Tyr the Betrayer, Tyr the Liar, Tyr the Traitor?

As for your girlfriend, I couldn't stomach such a psychology. There is a difference between genuine self-sacrifice and being a doormat.

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Tyr was a traitor of the worst kind. He alone would draw near enough to Father Fenrirulfr to provide him food, he alone did Father Fenrirulfr come to trust.

And when the time came for the ?sir and Venir to bind him, it was Tyr's oath that convinced Father Fenrirulfr to allow the test, and Tyr's missing hand is proof of his betrayal.

Hero? He was Fenrirulfr's sole friend and even knowing that still betrayed him.

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Ymmo:

What can I say? I consider myself a scion of Fenrirulfr...

I really don't see what this has to do with you being an Asatruar. This is more of a problem for the psychology section. As I understand, she does that with everything, not just belief, right?
It would help if you stated her belief. If she's a christian, well, some denominations have this "self-sacrifice" tendency that they apply to everything. My father's like that, he will act as a martyr and allow others to walk over him.

I guess you could just place her in front of a dilemma... Example:
You: "Where do you want to go out tonight?"
Her: "I don't know, wherever you like."
"What do YOU like?"
"Um..."
"Tell me your preference. Your opinion matters to me. How about you decide once for a change what you would like to do?"

Or something. I don't know. Getting self-confidence is a process that takes years. You won't change her in a week. Just encourage her to speak her mind, to take her own decisions, and once she does, DO NOT CRITICISE them. This is very important.
She might be like that because her surroundings let her know that her opinion and her decisions are not good enough. If you support her and be understanding, she will probably learn to trust herself a bit more with time.

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Hehe, the endless Lokeans' Tyr/Fenrir conflict? If I got a penny for every time this topic has been discussed, I'd be Soohhy rich.

Edit: JP: To each their own. As long as you're firm and steadfast in your way, it's every bit as justified as any other. I don't agree with you, but I respect your belief.
Now excuse me while I go and sharpen my sword! :-P

Wassail Tyr,

Don't worry about JP. He's just being a troll. Trying to see if he can push your buttons. With an IM handle of "Christ"rusteriously doubt he's ever attempted to understand the mindset of Germanic heathenry.

"Father Fenris"? Puh-leeze!!!

Anyway, to your question...

Does the "I love, but..." mean you're determined to see this through? Or does it mean she's driving you crazy and you're getting ready to drop her if she doesn't change?

The reason I ask is that you'll have a much better chance of success by letting her know that you love her, believe in her, and aren't going to give up on her no matter what. At the same time, it's important for her to understand that it causes you pain to see her have such low self-esteem. And that it is because you love her so much that you'll continue to actively encourage her to stand up for herself appropriately and not be a doormat for everyone else.

Guess what I am asking is this: Is it really about her, or is it about you? If it's about her and you love her... just keep at it and praise the hell out of the smallest improvement. If it's about you then admit it and move on.

Mike H.

"Only the truth that in life we have spoken.
Only the seed that on earth we have sown.
These will pass onward when we are forgotten.
Only remembered for what we have done."