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I have had many religious types accuse me of being arrogant for me asking them to prove what they believe. I have always had a scientific mind, and as a scientific person, I must be open to the possibility that what I think is the truth could be wrong. So I ask people who try to convert me to their religion for proof of what they believe.
For me, it's not enough to just believe something without the empirical evidence to back up what I know or believe. For instance, I believe air exists because you can do experiments to prove it's existence- yet religion offers no such proofs. I want to know something based on facts, and not what I feel good about.
Are atheists inclined to be scientifically minded because we ARE atheists?
Is this why we have trouble accepting just someones word on something- we need proof?
Why do religious people not understand the scientific mind-set?
I guess there are more questions I could ask, but I'll stick with these for now...
In our religion there is proof. You just have to understand where to find it and how it is written.
People tend to misunderstand or just plain miss the proofs because they are not realizing that at the time they were written they simply didn't have the words to describe things as we did now.
I believe that they see it as a 'threat' and a rebellion against God, which they so rev er. They cannot imagine anyone who would be daring enough to commit such a crime, in their eyes.
That is why atheists are seen as arrogant.
It is very wrong for them to accuse you of being arrogant. So, the reason is they are, as you said, religious people. Religious people rely on rules rather than their relationship with Jesus. Those who rely on their relationship would be glad to explain their faith because Jesus will give them words to say.
Sorry for the bad sampling of Christians you've had. =/
I would say that atheists are no more arrogant for asking a believer (in whatever faith) to prove their beliefs than a believer is for asking an atheist to prove the opposite.
I don't think its arrogant at all. Thanks for being honest. I'm a Christian (believe the Bible is inerrant) and I get frustrated with anyone who doesn't have anything to back up what they say. If I don't have proof in something I think, I'll admit to it. Not all Christians are stupid, but some just don't think very much. But, i guess that's like anyone.
cause then they might realize there is nothing after here. there is no heaven, no hell, just our bodies in the ground or cremated whatever but they need to think that there is something about dieing if not then why are they here.
Because people have faith in religion, just like they have faith in love. Asking for scientific proof in a non-scientific entity is like asking for proof of love.
Yes, atheists tend to be scientifically minded.
Some atheists have trouble accepting due to lack of proof, some do because they had strictly religious upbringings and this the way they rebel against it. Some do it because they want to be different and not follow the minority.
There are plenty of religious people that are scientific in mind-set. Most religious people just don't like when science is shoved down their throat to try to dispel their belief and faith in something larger than science.
Because religious people who blindly pursue religious dogma are delusional and fearful to a point of insanity, whilst being arrogant enough to believe they are absolutely and without any question of doubt correct about the existence of God, whilst everyone else who does not believe is a sinner and will go to hell! From their answers, I?vie also observed an incredible hypocrisy and lack of self confidence or will to accept responsibility for their own actions; preachers who sprout nonsense that a sin will be punishable by God and therefore pray for forgiveness, thus using this as a justifiable excuse for their own licentious and dishonest behavior in order they can be miraculously forgiven.
The whole situation is very sad, to see our world being dragged into a pit of oblivion by the people who claim to be saving everyone. It?s frankly quite disgusting and I genuinely find that truly sickening.
Dogma creates fear.
Fear breeds insecurity.
Insecurity clings to Dogma.
Religious people take their religion on faith - meaning they dint need proof to back up their beliefs. Some see it as confusing or confrontational when asked to provide proof for something that they personally dint need proof for.
I am a religious and scientific person and I don't think it's arrogant to ask for proof. Faith is not blind faith, it's based on sound evidence. I believe in God and the Bible for several reasons. One is the creation around me. It gives silent witness to the proof of an intelligent creator. We would make fun of someone who said they threw all the parts of a watch into a shoe box, shook it several times, and a watch put itself together in there. Look at the complexity of the smallest cell all the way to the largest item in the known universe-it all exists obeying certain laws, like gravity and centripetal force. How could we think those things just 'happened' without any design? I believe the Bible because of 1) scientific evidence (it speaks of the one dwelling above the circle of the earth, far before Galileo, a rabbit chewing its cud, and many other scientific facts) 2) fulfilled prophecy and 3) archaeological evidence. I don't believe anything people say just because they say it. I don't think you are arrogant. I think you are searching and there is nothing wrong with that!
I am a religious person and I don't think your arrogant for having different beliefs than I do. One thing true Christians believe is you shouldn't judge people, and thinking less of you because your beliefs are different would be doing just that. I think today a lot of people call themselves religious when they are in fact, not. I think you should stand up for what you believe in, no matter what anyone else thinks about it, or you. I give you props for doing just that.
There are plenty of religious people in the sciences.
Atheists are like Christians in that both fall into the trap of dogma. Not all atheists follow the scientific method.
Reason is the faith in cause and effect. You cannot directly prove cause and effect because at Au any moment it could not happen, but you have faith that it will.
I consider myself logical, scientific, and faithful. I just happen to think it is perfectly reasonably to look at a watch and infer a watchmaker.
In trying to sort out where your coming from, Athiests, though I am not one, is a recognized valid church, and as such is entitled to their beliefs, since if there really was this battle of church and state, the constitution would have been a failure, but it's not so science and religion co-exist peacefully.
I must say it's the first time I've heard of Atheism as a science, not a religion. Their empirical proof I thought was absence of God, which by itself is subjective.
because every belief no matter what is eventually based in just believing, if you can believe something with all your heart, is it true? its faith, faith drives us and holds us together, its faith that will ultimately decide our happiness and faith that controls our destiny
Im with ya...and a secular humanist. Believe in all things good just not a mythical god. They think that way because they cant prove there is a god. Never have and never will. I personally think there was a person named Jesus, but he was married and was a regular guy. Christians have always used religion as a crutch to avert the fact that they cant account for everything in life and why it happens they way it does. It gives them a sense of comfort i suppose. I was raised a christian and then started thinking for myself.....i always throw the dinosaur question at them....and the different strata of the earths crust and have them explain or try to explain which they cant that if the earth is only a few thousand years......who created tyrannosaurus Rex? Its funny to see them squirm and try to rationalize an irrational belief.
The whole basis of religion is having "Faith." People are supposed to believe in what they don't entirely understand. It's a Divine Mystery.
What gets me is that most mainstream religions (in Christianity) teach acceptance and forgiveness. But they don't seem so accepting when one questions God or the teachings.
I wish more people would question their beliefs. It's one thing to believe in something, but another to BLINDLY believe it.
I am religious, but I believe in some science as well. I do not believe people came from monkeys, or that everything just happened. A tree did not just develop because it wanted to. I just know there is more, at least more to life than chance. Science has not been able to create from nothing with nothing.
I don't understand how evolutionist believe everything came to be from waiting long enough. Where did the basic building blocks come from?
The scientific proof for a God is everywhere. The problem is that most people don't know enough about science to appropriately demonstrate it. For example nonnumerical pure chiral elements in nature, the laws physics pointing to a time where energy had to be initially created and the fact that physics states that the universe is contently moving towards increased chaos, yet Darwinism shows that organisms are moving towards increased order. The additional basis that evolution cannot be plausible (IE the Cambrian explosion) and while lost of atheist argue that we came from monkeys few like to believe that monkeys came from the same organism that later became a Nat or a beetle yet this is exactly what Darwinism says! People who claim to use science to prove that God doesn't exist are in fact only using a minute portion of science to backup their theory. It really takes people who understand the sciences of the world to realize that there must be a God! and science proves it!!!!! Research some more and come back when you truly understand what science is all about and not some high school equivalent sociobiology ideas.
Well I understand that everyone has to learn by asking question, so no I do not think that you are arrogant for asking questions.
There is no scientific proof that I can give you about my religion, I am a southern Baptist, all I know is I trusted in the Lord and believed in my heart the word and ask him to forgive me of my sin and save my soul and he did. And the feeling that I got on the inside was amazing and I know he is real and that his spirit is real because I feel him inside my heart everyday of my life.
I totally agree, when you bring someones faith into question, no-one wants to admit that what they've brought up to have faith in is wrong. The problem with the religious types is that they have often been raised up in a family devoted to their religion so have had it rammed down their throat since birth for example; christenings and baptisms. If we were allowed to choose our own religion when we're old enough to do so, you would find that more people would be as open minded as us Atheists, because after all, all atheism is pragmatism, we have a greater appreciation for the finer things in life because we don't expect everyone else to have the same belief as us!
I think many of of Christians get tiered of always being on the defense against Satan and his working in atheists lives.
Our proof is our faith! It's deeper then mere words of thought, it is a reality that God chooses to allow humans to see. We can't give you the proof. Proof is a gift given only by God. And that proof is demonstrated through the billions and billions of believes throughout history.
Religious people are taught from a very early age that the only thing need for proof is Faith.
I was one of those that believed that clap trap.
That was up to the time that I found out the money is far more important than truth to the church.
Faith dose not protect you from greed.
Faith dose not protect you from a bullet.
All Faith protects you from is knowledge.
Well, i don't think you are arrogant. It is about faith, and the people that call you arrogant are wrong, they just get defensive because they themselves don't have enough faith to give you the answer. If you asked me that question, i would tell you to look at yourself, everything about you, the way you work, what makes you tick. The proof you need is you.
Why do religious people think that atheists are arrogant when they ask for proof of w
