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Old 06-21-2010, 09:35 PM
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Default Atheists, is it bcos the world religions have been ridiculously pictured by selfish p

.... is it just you, you yourself simply cannot comprehend the common sense that your body system, the systematic lives around you, the fixed law of the entire universe are the work of an intelligent Creator?

You said a mountain in South America that look like a table, was not created by a creator, God or human. It was shaped by the weather, wind & rains. Ok, fine.

But when you see an aquarium with equipment system powered by battery that keep the fishes alive, you said it is not built by nature, not shaped by weather, wind & rains. You firmly believe that equipment & battery system is COMPLICATED enough, that it is surely a work of an intelligent man.

Well, how about your systematic body system? Your eyesight, focus & co lours, and your senses? The orderly and fixed law of the universe? Are they not as complicated as the aquarium system & the battery?
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Old 06-26-2010, 09:35 PM
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You don't seem to grasp evolution, once you understand that you realize that eyes and the rest of the body aren't that mysterious.
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Old 06-30-2010, 09:35 PM
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Doesn't matter about the Mesa mountain, or the aquarium. Your life is like a spark from a campfire. It will all be gone for you in an instant.
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Old 07-05-2010, 09:35 PM
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Table Mountain (if that's what you are talking about) is in South Africa...
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Old 07-09-2010, 09:35 PM
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Is WHAT "Cos" of all that rubbish?
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Old 07-14-2010, 09:35 PM
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I comprehend your position and see the flaws in it.

Systematic body system? Are you trolling or just dumb? There are perfectly good explanations for the complexity of the human body. Perhaps you should read up on them.
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Old 07-17-2010, 09:35 PM
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LOL. Just LOL.

"Well, how about your systematic body system? Your eyesight, focus & co lours, and your senses?"
Try actually taking a look at the human body sometime. It's "designed" pretty terribly. You would think an intelligent creator would know enough to not place the genitals right near the but thole, for one thing.
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Old 07-21-2010, 09:35 PM
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I don't understand what you're rambling on about, and it certainly isn't my fault, so I assume it has to be yours. Form coherent thoughts, darling. You might receive more answers if you do so.
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Old 07-26-2010, 09:35 PM
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It is your inability to understand evolution that leads to this question, not anything to do with me.
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Old 07-31-2010, 09:35 PM
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I've studied the world's religions in depth and found they need no such assistance by people, selfish or otherwise.

Terrain is not proof of god, even when it reminds you of dining furniture.

Yes, the universe is amazing. But its ponderousness does not prove the bible is true, or any of the thousands of deities proposed by the world's religions.

If God exists, none of those religions have any connection to it.
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Old 08-05-2010, 09:35 PM
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I think the way sex organs operate with each other is really fantastic. Adding batteries is not my cup of tea but if that what she wants, I guess it's OK
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Old 08-10-2010, 09:35 PM
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Well simple answer...A fish tank as no wasted material. It is perfect in it artificial way. Your eyes, your sight, co lours...the human body..is FAR from perfect. We have organs that over time lose their function indicating a change. These vestigial organs are nearly ubiquitous in all animals indicating that at some distance time we all shared a common genome. Even beyond that...look at the DNA it contains literally volumes of "blueprints" which over time were no longer relevant to our development and simply are no longer read. I point you to the DNA in chickens which codes for teeth and tails identical to dinosaur es but is silenced because it does not serve a purpose anymore.

Anyway as for the examples you address eds, the organ systems, the eye, we know how they evolved over time. Each component and their components were the product of random mutation which conferred upon the organism an advantage. In fact the development over time of the eye has been documented
see the link (http://media.web.britannica.com/eb-media/43/79543-004-C3F00EE8.jpg)
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Old 08-13-2010, 09:35 PM
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Our universe is the work of a Creator. It was fashioned by Him according to a plan and, in its functioning, all instrumentality is His alone. Just as every atom of the universe is obedient to the will of God, so also does it be hove human beings to lead their lives in submission to His wishes.
?Is there any doubt about God, the Creator of the heavens and the earth?? (Jonah: 14) Here the Quran appears to be posing a question, but it is, of course, a rhetorical one. It indicates that the very existence of the heavens and the earth are concrete evidence of God?s creativity, thus proving His existence beyond any shadow of doubt. This idea is further elaborated in the Quran. ?Do not those, who disbelieve, see that the heavens and the earth were one piece joined together, then we cleaved them asunder??(21:30)
It has been estimated that the present radius of the universe is at least ten thousand million light years. Cosmology has revealed that the universe is not static, but is expanding at an even speed on all sides in an ever-continuing process. About the expanding universe, we are told in The Final Testament (i.e. The Quran): ?We have built it (Universe) with power. Verily. We are expanding it.?(51:47)It refers to the expansion of the Universe in totally unambiguous terms. It has been deduced from this that the universe must at some stage in the past have been in an embryonic stage. According to certain cosmologists, the entire universe was initially in the form of a ?super atom?, all of whose elements were pulled inward by irresistible forces. About fifteen billion years ago, this primary matter underwent an explosion, or energy release, as a result of which the particles of the ? super atom? broke away from their cent re and started expanding on all side in such a way that the present universe was brought into being. The forces operating inside the super atom before the ?energy release? were consistently those of pulling and shrinking inwards. The outward journey of the particles, in contravention of their own principles, could only be the result of interference by outside force or agency. This extraordinary occurrence compels one to accept the existence of an independent power, extraneous to the universe, which is the source of all powers and which by deliberate design, caused this otherwise inexplicable movement of primary matter. ?Had there been in them (the heavens and earth) gods beside the One God, there would have been disorder in both of them.? (The Glorious Quran, 21:22)
The Quranic words would appear to refer to this particular occurrence in the universe and prove that this supernal power, although multiple in form, is one in essence. For those who have never made a study of this subject, it may seem a matter of astonishment that all of the physical sciences confirm the universe?s being subject to a single law. It follows that the laws that operate on this earth also hold good for all of the heavenly bodies. It was this basic assumption which gave human beings the impetus to spend billions and billions on the construction of space machines, and also gave them the courage to land them on the Moon and Mars according to an organized and well though-out plan. If there had been no such single law operative in the entire universe with such perfect exactitude, the telescopes on earth would not have been able to scan a distance of eight thousand million light years. Without this law, our physical sciences would suddenly lose all relevance. The fact of the universe being governed by such a unified law points unmistakably to the conclusion that it has been designed, and is controlled, by one God alone. Had it been controlled by several gods (or ?forces?), it would surely have been plagued by disorder, it would have been disorganized by the inevitable conflicts between several ?gods?. There would have been one law operating on this earth and quite different laws on other planets. But our physical observation confirms that a single law governs all objects, and that the universe adheres strictly to this principle. The Quran expresses it thus: ?It is He (God) who has created everything, and has determined the due proportion of everything? (25:2).
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Old 08-15-2010, 09:35 PM
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I comprehend the world around me just fine. That's why I know it's the result of natural processes, not the doing of a magic sky daddy.

I've talked to people who study the human body in great detail. They say that no designer in his right mind would have designed something as unnecessarily complex as the human body and that it looks exactly like the result of parallel evolution of separate systems.

However, I understand that people who know next to nothing about it are inclined to see magic.
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Old 08-17-2010, 09:35 PM
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If the universe was made for people, then why is 99.99999999999999999999999999999% of it empty space?

Why is it so unnecessarily big?
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Old 08-20-2010, 09:35 PM
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Complicated =/= created.
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