I am in a mental and spiritual rut, I left Chrisianity a long time ago because it was so full of Hippocrates and also I just dint get the trinity thing, I have something inside me calling me so to speak, I feel a strong urge to Islam but also something is always trying to sway me to the Baha'i faith...I look at both religions, they seem true...I am SOpoonfused...any advice?
Why not stick with ice cream. Less commitment, more fun. You were not committed to Christianity, what makes you think you will stick with either of these?
Exercise. Your not in a spiritual rut, your in an emotional one and religious freaks will only make you worse. After some exercise all will seem beater.- Socrates.
We need to exercise for about 3 months for the difference to start to be noticed.
Until you can conclusively figure out which one is true, don't align yourself with either. If you do, you will find the same doubts you left Christianity for.
Islam is the only true religion of God. Bahai is founded by a person and is followed by very few people compared to Islam. The founder of Islam is God himself.
Many people have the misconception that Islam is the new religion and Prophet Muhammad pub founded Islam. Prophet Muhammad is not the founder of Islam but he is the last and final messenger of Allah. Islam is there since Man sets foot on Earth. In fact, the first man on earth i.e. Adam pub was first messenger of Allah.
brother,,, you should embrace Islam because its in this religion you were born in.. its later people went astray. every child is born on desultory i.e. innate religion.. i.e. Islam which means submission to the will of God.
Islam is better than every religion
because,
>Islam is the only religion which teaches the existence of a one and only PERFECT God. A perfect God means that there is no sharer in His Nature and His Attributes:
>Islam makes sense e.g. concept of oneness God (He Who created the eye of the mosquito is the One Who created the sun) , Messengers of God on the face of earth with the message of oneness of God and accountability in the hereafter, concept of Salvation through faith and deeds, concept of Prayers and Charity, fasting, etc.
> Because there is only one human race, there has to be one perfect way assigned by God for the human beings as a way of life. That is Islam which means submission to the will of God. "The Religion in the sight of God is Islam." (Quran 3:19)
>Islam has Practical Solutions for the Problems of Mankind. e.g. to reduce murder, rape, poverty. etc
Islam is a perfect religion which has nothing left to add or subtract. There is not a single teaching of Islam which is against humanity as a whole. All the good teachings which other religion speaks about is already present in Quran and sayings of Prophet Muhammad pub.
"This day I have perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion (way of life)". [ Quran 5:3]
> Islam provides salvation and path to paradise forever.
There is no compulsion in the religion; Truth stands out clear from error; so whoso disbelieves in idols and believes in God, has laid hold of the most firm handle, which cannot break; and God is Hearing, Knowing.
Al-Quran (2:256)
"If anyone desires a religion other then Islam (Allah's way of life), never will it be accepted of him; and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks of those who have lost all spiritual good". [Quran, 3:86]
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What you don't like about Islam.. tell me,, i will inshallah clarify to you with proofs.???
GOD IS INVITING YOU TO TRUTH.
"O man! What has seduced thee from thy Lord Most Beneficent?- Him Who created thee. Fashioned thee in due proportion, and gave thee a just bias; In whatever Form He wills, does He put thee together." (QURAN 82:6-8)
I researched this myself when I saw your question and to tell you the truth, they both sounded almost similar to me. But, I do know many people that are Muslim or have converted to Islam (I'm not that familiar with Baha'i) and they have all been so comfortable with themselves and their community. I would definitely recommend Islam, but nobody can control your religion, in the end it is your choice.
what kind of Islam are u looking at? Shina/sunni/sufi etc.?? and how different are the beliefs of Islam and Bahia? i don't know much about the Bahia, but my advice to you would be to look towards Sunni Islam Cox it is the true religion. u could also go to:
As a convert to Islam I would have to say Islam. But I know the struggle I had with my choice. It took me 5 years full of study before I converted. You need to look deep inside of your self. Study both and come to your own conclusion. Only you can decide. The final decision is between you and God.
You will find hypocrites everywhere, but that's no reason to switch religions. Maybe you should try to find somebody who can answer your questions about Christianity.
First of all, I'd like to thank you for giving me the opportunity of responding to your Question.
Indeed, Islam is the most beautiful religion in the world. No other religion can give you such peace of mind and heart.
It is also the only religion that fully makes sense, with nothing contradicting itself in it.
Imagine, Adam was sent to mankind with one message "to Worship the creator alone", Noah, moses, Jesus, Muhammad, and all other prophets were sent with the exact same message.
you see, every aspect about Islam is beautiful. You dint have to confess your sins to anyone but to Allah. you dint need a medium.
Also, it would only be right to follow the religion that accepts all the prophets, including Jesus and Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon them).
if you go to anyone and ask them to explain to you the trinity, they will not be able to give you an adequate answer.
Never once did Jesus (peace be upon him) claim to be God. If you look into the bible, if you have a red lettered one that highlights supposedly what Jesus has said, than never once will you find that he told his people to worship him. On the contrary, he said "Worship Thy Father Alone" i.e. worship God Alone.
Third of All, In Islam we believe in Jesus as a highly respected Prophet of Allah (God). just like Moses, Adam, Abraham, Noah, etc.
They All came with the same message : To worship the creator Alone.
Indeed, it is very blasphemous to say that Jesus Is God.
#1. Jesus was A human, and everyone will agree upon that. meaning he ate, slept, used the bathroom, etc. Things that Muslims Believe are not attributes fit for the Lord of the Universe, because he is free of all needs.
#2. The Christians believed that Jesus died on the Cross. How can God Die? if that were the case, than how can it be that he would be on the cross saying "Why have you forsaken me" to the one who is in heaven, if they were one in the same. and how is it that He knew he would die, but didn't know at the same time?
and if he died for 3 days, who was God during those 3 days?
nothing makes sense.
but everything in Islam Makes sense. wouldn't it be more logical that he were a Righteous Prophet of God, rather than God himself?
If you believe
1. that there is no object worthy of worship but Allah (God)
2. you believe in the angles
3. Heaven and hell
4. The Books that came before (the Old testament, Gospels, Quran)
5. you believe in the all the Prophets of God starting from Adam, including Moses, Jesus, Abraham, Noah, and Muhammad peace be upon all of them)
and finally
6. Divine decree.
than welcome to Islam.
Finally, if you do not wish to listen to anything I've said, at least do one thing which you have nothing to lose.
Seek guidance from God himself to guide you on the strait path, and see where it leads you.
I Swear by Allah, that if you Sincerely and whole-heatedly ask Him for Guidance to the truth. He will lead you to it.
No, the problem I see, is that you are judging God, by the people that you come in contact with. While I know that if we say we are in Christ, we are supposed to walk as He did, I also know that we don't always do it- not at all times. I'll bet you've screwed up once or more in your life?? Same with Christians. They are also human. Your main goal is to get to heaven, and there is only one way, that is through Jesus Christ. Why don't you ask Him to lead you in the direction He wants you to go. Read your Bible, and make up your own mind about things... This is your life. Your soul. Not a thing to take lightly, or to toy with. Everytime there is something good, people work to come up with a counterfeit. Same with the Word of God. But you won't be judged by Muhammed or anyone Else's words, so I'd stick with the ones I'll be judged by.
When you get a real relationship with God, He isn't going to let you down. Stick with Jehovah, no matter what they tell you.
P.S. The Bible says that no other word would be given, -- OOPS--- Muhammed came after Jesus... What are you going to do with that?
Catholicism is where it is at. Try WNW.fisheaters.com or catholic.com.
If you think you might be bunny hopping faiths - Islam would be the last one you'd want to pick. There is that clause in their - if you leave it - you are supposed to be killed. Not to healthy for someone who might want to explore religions.
I am a Baha'i, it is the fulfillment of the prophecies of all the world's religions. Really!
I don't know how much you know about the Baha'i Faith, so if these things are rhetoric, forgive me.
The Baha'i Faith is an independent religion and the youngest religion. Just as Christianity began in a Jewish backdrop but is independent from Judaism, the Baha'i Faith began in a Muslim backdrop but is independent from Islam. It is not a branch of Islam, but rather its own religion. We have our own scripture, calendar, holy days, prayers, and Messenger of God.
Baha'is believe in:
ONE God, one almighty, all-knowing, all-seeing God. There is no trinity in the Baha'i Faith. No one else is God but God.
UNITY!!! That is the central theme of the Baha'i Faith. We believe that there is one race, the human race. Doesn't mean we deny the existence of Black, White, Asian, etc, of course not. However, all are human beings, created in God's image, created beautiful. This we call UNITY IN DIVERSITY.
ISLAM
What is Islam? There are two major meanings of Islam. It's true that in the Qur'an (and Baha'is accept the Qur'an as the holy word of God) that the only religion acceptable to God is Islam. Oh? Then why are we still Baha'is?
First meaning of Islam
Islam is the religious dispensation given to man through Muhammad (pub). It's changed over time, as every religion does, but this religious dispensation is called Islam. Its followers are called Muslims.
Second meaning of Islam
Islam is the religion of the submission to the will of God. That's it. Someone who practices Islam is a Muslim. A Muslim is a person who practices the religion of submission to the will of God. In the Qur'an, Abraham and Moses and Jesus were called Muslims. But wait a minute? Abraham and Moses and Jesus existed long before Muhammad, so how can they be Muslims? They are Muslims because they practiced and promulgated and guided people to the religion of the submission to the will of God. ALL religions of God are Islam, until the next Messenger came along. "Islam" has a more universal definition than the first meaning, it's more than the religion brought through Muhammad. Yes it is the Muhammadan dispensation, but it's also more.
The Baha'is believe that Baha'u'llah is the Messenger for today, and since we follow him, then we are the Muslims of today. This does not contradict what the Qur'an says, because the only religion acceptable to God is the religion that teaches submission to His will.
INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATION OF TRUTH
I admire you for searching, really I do. We are each responsible for our own spiritual development. What others say, whether at the pulpit, in the home, on TV, in radio, etc, is of course an influence, but we're supposed to research truth for ourselves. As in Islam, the Baha'i Faith advises its followers not to merely follow in the traditions of the conventional, but to seek the truth for themselves. The Baha'i Faith has no clergy, there is no priest telling us what the scriptures say. We are responsible for reading the scriptures ourselves. We can ask questions, but ultimately, the answers are found in the scriptures prayerfully.
In many cases, people don't bother opening scriptures, they just listen to what the clergy says and they accept it without seeking further. Baha'is know that we as human beings are more responsible than that for spiritual cultivation.
All seekers are called to wipe away their minds of preconceived ideas, to become "as children" as Christ said. Sometimes the obvious is in front of us, and we're so blinded by tradition that we never see it.
UNITY OF RELIGION
We believe in unity of religion very much, that all of God's religions are ONE RELIGION <UNFOLDED OVER TIME.> Every religion teaches the same Golden Rule. You can cross-reference the Bible, Qur'an, Bhagavad Gita, Baha'i Scriptures all day long. There are so many spiritual similarities, because the spiritual teachings never change. IE: honor your parents, know and love and obey God, be kind to animals, don't lie, don't steal, always tell the truth (there's no such thing as a white lie), do unto others as you would have them do unto you, etc. What changes are the outward things... sabbath day, calendar, holidays, ritual, dress code (if any), food restrictions (if any), etc. These things are secondary, but God prescribes what humanity needs FOR THAT TIME.
PROGRESSIVE REVELATION
God has never abandoned us, He has always sent a Messenger to humanity to be the link between us and Him. There are countless Messengers that have come to us throughout time, some of which are: Adam, Noah, Abraham, Joseph, Moses, Zarathustra, Buddha, Krishna, Jesus, Muhammad, The Bab, and now Baha'u'llah (pbut), the Messenger of this day. Each Messenger has brought a new religious dispensation. With each Messenger, mankind received God's word (scripture), a calendar, new holidays, new "rules" (like not eating pork for Jews and Muslims, for example), etc. The Messenger is the Great Physician, prescribing what humanity needs at that time. Baha'is call them Manifestations of God. These Manifestations are not God, but they are the link between God and man. We need Manifestations, because people cannot encounter God alone. We cannot fathom God, He is unknowable, He is too great for us to fully comprehend, so He sends us His Messengers so that we may KNOW HIM AND WORSHIP HIM, which is our life's purpose.
UNIVERSAL AUXILIARY LANGUAGE
We believe that throughout the world, there will become one universal language, either in existence or one that will become developed, that everyone all over the globe will learn. We can speak our own languages, but if let's say you travel to another country, you will be able to communicate with everyone.
UNIVERSAL EDUCATION
This is SO KEY to our Faith! We believe that everyone should become educated, and if in the case of a lack of resources that parents are forced to choose between their girl children and boy children to have educated, they choose the girls. Why? Because girls will become mothers, and mothers are the first teachers. They <must> be educated.
The Baha'i Faith has organized countless learning centers around the globe. In many assemblies, there are educational centers in many countries. The Phillippines, Kenya, El Salvador, Mexico, countless others.
EQUALITY OF WOMEN AND MEN
In the Baha'i Faith, women and men are equal in the eyes of God. We believe in the emancipation of women, and in their full rights as human beings. Inequality retards not only the advancement of women, but of civilization itself. We are not required to obey husbands, women are respected and cherished. The only restriction is that women cannot be in combat, or have any occupation that requires the taking of life (like an executioner, as an extreme example). Women are life-giving creatures, so it's like choosing between two evils... if we have to choose someone to take a life (let's say in war), better men than women to do that. The station of woman is SO LOFTY because they are life-giving creatures, that taking a life is way beneath them. Not saying that men are life-taking creatures, but it's the better of the two.
Women and men are like two wings of a dove. There are not two right wings, nor two left wings. There are one right and one left wing. They are different, but equal. They must both be equally strong for the bird to fly.
PRAYER AND MEDITATION
We are required to recite the scriptures in the morning and in the evening. We also say one Obligatory Prayer each day. There are three to pick from, each with its own time frame, and each has equal weight.
As Muslims have their pilgrimage to Mecca that they call hajj, the Baha'is have a pilgrimage to Haifa, Israel. We register, and when our turn comes, we go to the tombs of The Bab and Baha'u'llah, and I believe we also go to the Universal House of Justice. I'm not too clear on what is done during the pilgrimage, so don't take this as gospel truth. I've not been a Baha'i all my life, so I haven't yet read about what specifically goes on. I don't worry about it, I'll find out at the appropriate time.
BIBLICAL PROPHECY
The Baha'i Faith fulfills Biblical prophecy TIME AND TIME AGAIN!!! For more on that, read "I Shall Come Again" by Hushidar Motlagh, and "Thief In The Night" by William Sears. I've also provided a link to see prophecy fulfilled.
As scripture, we accept the Baha'i Holy Writings, the Bible, and the Qur'an as holy word of God.
THEY SHALL BE KNOWN BY THEIR FRUITS
Good trees bear good fruits. Unhealthy trees bear unhealthy fruits, if any. The Baha'i Faith is involved in many many humanitarian efforts, and is also closely linked to the United Nations. Did you know that back in the day, before the UN, there was the Good Deal originated by Franklin Delano Roosevelt? This was the precursor to the UN. Eleanor Roosevelt was a Baha'i, but FDR wasn't. The only reason he wasn't was because he would have had to give up his place in office, as Baha'is are forbidden from participating in partisan politics. Otherwise, he would have joined. Yes, the Baha'i Faith is deeply concerned with issues as world poverty, the environment, medicine, human rights, civil rights, rights of women, etc.
Tidbit: We have no dietary restrictions, so pork is fine to eat. We are, however, forbidden from ingesting any and all intoxicants, unless it is prescribed by a physician. This means we do not drink alcohol. Smoking is not banned, but highly discouraged.
There's SO MUCH MORE to the Baha'i Faith, but I can't possibly write it all down here. The absolute BEST place to look is the official Baha'i Faith website. That is the first link below. Another excellent place to look is Planet Baha'i, which is the second link.
If you have <ANY> questions at all, please email me. I will reply with swiftness. I am so happy that you are seeking which faith to go to, because it means that God is important to you enough to do active searching. I love this, it's so admirable! Most don't bother, but you have taken on this responsibility for yourself, and with God's guidance, inshaallah, you will find the place where He wants you to be.
banally,LElam is a complete way of life. a total submission. with over a 1.5 billion followers. why would you trade paradise for anything else?
Islam is beautiful. that is why millions of people convert every year. people find the truth in it.
like I said, Ask Allah to guide you sincerely, I swear by Him who's hand my soul is, that he will guide you to the truth if you are sincere in searching for it.
actually maybe this will help you, it's the story of one of the companions of the Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be upon you) his name is Salman Al-Farasi (may Allah be pleased with him)
his story is amazing, it's a journey of a man searching for the truth. listen to the lecture, i loved it, and it may help you:
hey man, are you crazy?? you dint need Islam or Baha'i, they are both brain washers man! they want just to Control everything you do and think!!! I was born a Muslim, but I left Islam, because Islam just wasn't compatible with my inner beliefs, I checked out the Baha'i faith and various Christian sects, but too want to just to Control everything you do and think!! set yourself free man! become a Deist, when I became a Deist I was liberated!!! I was set free!!! I was released from my inner prison...
here's a few good websites about Deism
http://www.deism.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deism
when you truly grasp Deism, you will be set free...it is "The purification of the Religion of God"
and about Islam
Islam has been at war with everyone, including itself, for 1400 years.
If you analyze the Sira, the Ta'rikh, or History of AL-Tabari, and the topical Hadith collections of Bukhari and Muslim. Using Islam's most holy books you will be able to reorder the Qur'an chronologically and set it into the context of Muhammad's life. The result is bone chilling. The depiction of the prophet by the most revered Muslim sources reveals behavior that is immoral, criminal, and violent. The five oldest and most trusted Islamic sources don't portray Muhammad as a great and godly man. They confirm that he was a thief, liar, assassin, mass murderer, terrorist, warmonger, and an unrestrained ...He authorized deception, assassinations, torture, slavery, and genocide. He was a pirate, not a prophet. According to the Hadith and the Qur'an, Muhammad and his henchmen plundered their way to power and prosperity. And by putting the Qur'an in chronological order and correlating it with the context of Muhammad's life, we find that Allah mirrored his prophet's character. Muhammad's god condoned immoral and criminal behavior. Allah boasts about being a terrorist. He claims to have deceived men, to have stolen their property, to have enslaved women and children, to having committed acts of murder, genocide, and sadistic tortures.
Muhammad claimed supremacy. He said, "If you reject my message, you will die." Emboldened by the militants he eventually came to command, he twisted the stories further in an effort to make his wanton behavior look prophetic. Biblical accounts were contorted to the point they became nonsensical in the context of the time and place they actually occurred. The Jews, in defense of their scriptures, mocked Muhammad all the more. Enraged, Allah's Messenger struck back, calling them donkeys, apes, and pigs. He ordered his followers to "kill every Jew." He'd show them who was right and who was wrong. He'd prove who was godly and who was not.
"Follow the Revelation given to you from your Lord and follow not as protectors other than Him [third person]. Little do you remember My [first person, singular] warning. How many towns have We [plural] destroyed as a raid by night? Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept for their afternoon rest. Our terror came to them; Our punishment overtook them. No cry did they utter but: ?We were wrong-doers.'" The Islamic god's taste for terror is shocking. It's hard to fathom scripture bragging, "How many towns have We destroyed?" or, "Our punishment took them suddenly while they slept." What would possess someone to claim this was godly? The Islamic "god," by his own admission, is a terrorist.
The Prophet married Aisha in Mecca three years before the Hijrah, after the death of Khadija. At the time she was six." Ishaq:281 "When the Apostle came to Medina he was fifty-three." Tabari VII:6 "In May, 623 A.D./A.H. 1, Allah's Messenger consummated his marriage to Aisha." He would be dead in ten years; she hadn't lived that long. : Tabari IX:128 "When the Prophet married Aisha, she was very young and not yet ready for consummation." This is how it happened: Tabari IX:131 "My mother came to me while I was being swung on a swing between two branches and got me down. My nurse took over and wiped my face with some water and started leading me. When I was at the door she stopped so I could catch my breath. I was brought in while Muhammad was sitting on a bed in our house. My mother made me sit on his lap. The other men and women got up and left. The Prophet consummated his marriage with me in my house when I was nine years old."
Bukhari:V4B52N72 "The Prophet said, ?Nobody who enters Paradise likes to go back to the world even if he got everything on the earth, except a Mujahid [Islamic fighter] who wishes to return so that he may be martyred ten times because of the dignity he receives.' Our Prophet told us about the message of Allah: ?Whoever among us is killed will go to Paradise.' Umar asked the Prophet, ?Is it not true that our men who are killed will go to Paradise and those of the Pagan's will go to Hell?' The Prophet said, ?Yes.'" Bukhari:V4B52N73 "Allah's Apostle said, ?Know that Paradise is under the shade of swords.'"
and as for Baha'i...you gotta be kidding that your even considering it, its to Islam what the Mormons are to Christians...just a "nice" version of Islam.
Should I convert to Baha'i or Islam?
