Has Westerners consumption of alcohol contributed to the influence Christianity has o

What are some emotions that Christianity heavily relies on? That?s right, guilt, shame, remorse etc. Nobody does a guilt trip better than a Christian. And what are some emotions you feel after a night spent drinking alcohol? That?s right, guilt, shame, remorse etc. The reason I draw a distinction to alcohol is that Westerners probably have the longest history of excessive alcohol consumption. So I think there is a logical connection between the West?s love of alcohol and the chosen religion of the West. Do you concur?

No, there are examples of truly pure Christian communities in Europe that had nothing to do with alcohol that were wiped out utterly by the Catholic church in the inquisition ..

You might want to study Mother Russia and it's alcohol consumption for hundreds of years.

It's the other way around:

Christianity has had an influence on the consumption of alcohol (and it's limitations).

Alcohol has been around since the beginning of time and it is as universal as food. When writing was first invented, wheat beer was one of the products being written about as a traded commodity both in Egypt and in Sumeria.

Christianity is based on interpersonal forgiveness and divine forgiveness. It's all about freedom from guilt and resurrection into new life. It sounds like you've misunderstood it.

I concur to a degree. Guilt does have a controlling effect over Christians. After all I do want to please God. As for alcohol, well I just felt sick the morning after, I can't say I felt guilt. But my Christian guilt caused me to no longer drink alcohol.

That is like saying that wearing turbines on their head to keep the sand out turned middle easterners Mu slum. Most Western countries are cold, so people would gather and drink, it just so happens that the crusades also came through that way. One really has nothing to do with the other.

Interesting connection! I had never thought of it before. The Chinese also drink heavily.

Alcohol plays a part in the Christian communion. Lots of drinking stories in the Bible. There is nothing in there that states you shouldn't drink. Also nothing that says one shouldn't take drugs, which may be why America has the world worst drug abuse.

When Christianity encountered the Prue-existing European tradition of Dionysus (or Bacchus), they ran up against people using mind expanding hallucinogens, etc. These people were nearly impossible to convert. So, the Christians subverted that belief system (through control of schools, etc.) by inventing subtle changes in the claims. Instead of fertility, creativity and freedom, they turned Dionysus into a deity of wine and harvest. It is much easier to control a drunk than a mushroom user.

No, you're out in left field. Christians live their lives in such a way as to have no reason to feel guilt shame, etc. I like being able to look myself in the eye when I stand in front of the mirror. And there's a huge difference between drinking and getting drunk. I've never been drunk in my life, nor have I seen friends or family drunk. We know when to quit.

No. the manufacture and imbibing of alcoholic beverages seems to have been exercised in every community in the world. Anybody who has been out on the town always feel guilty because the money spent could have been used on something worthwhile.

Uncle Sven@ let's hear more about these European communities that were wiped out by Catholics. I can't seem to find any mention of them in my history books