Jesus? birthday is celebrated over a pagan holiday, so that means that paganism started before Christianity right?
fancy_tea22: You mean Jesus was born 4.6 billion years ago and not 2000 years ago? So the bible is wrong?
CD-rom: So why was there a festival if it wan?t a religion? Is it a festival for all the people that survived the crusades?
"We are alive, let?s have a festival!!!"
originalLyogic and religion doesn't seem to go hand in hand sister!!! Besides I asked a logical question, If your scared of the discovery channel don't watch it. I'm just a seeker for truth and you obviously don't know truth yourself.
Yes, Unfortunately you will find paganism in Americas system such as the days of the week and Santa Claus to replace the true meaning of the birth of Christ. Sad but very true
There was never a religion called 'paganism', it's a catch-all term for religions that are non-Christian. The same term applies to primitive savages in New Guinea and to the modern agnostic on Wall Street.
I don't think that paganism is a religion.Pagans worship idols. If you mean that pagans have been worshiping idols longer than Christianity has been around, you got a strong argument to your credit.
Yes, Paganism is older than Christianity. "Pagan" is the usual translation of the Islamic term shriek, which refers to 'one who worships something other than God'. Christianity didn't come about until after Jesus was sent to this earth by God. The Romans were considered Pagans because they didn't worship God.
Peganism simply refers to anyone who does not abide by the laws of the God of the Jews. People who's hearts are not soft towards him. It goes back to the very beginning, Cain and able.
Jesus didn't come until later, and people started Christianity after he died, and that word simply means Christ followers. So yes the term for someone of a peg an religion, and people therein have been around since before Christianity, but not necessarily longer than the people who followed God.
Christianity began with the anointing or baptism of Jesus as the Christ. You do the math- 34AD before or after ancient Greek god, Ancient Babylon, Ancient Rome?
Look it up in a dictionary. The word 'pagan' refers to a person who lived in the rural areas, a country dweller; as opposed to one living in the city. The city dwellers thought of themselves as more civilized. It also refers generally to people living in Europe before Christianity was widely accepted, some 1000 to 1800 years ago. (The evangelizing of Europe was a gradual process.)
O.k., this is going to sound weird, but due to research in this subject I know this to be the truth.
Wiccan (witches) religion is actually not that old. Only a couple hundred years if memory serves me right, but the root to the Wiccan religion dates back a little further back then the Jewish religion.
See the people who make up the roots of the Wiccan religion were called wise men, Shamens, witch doctors, sorcerers, etc.
Now I know the question was not about the Wiccans, but of the Pagens.
Pagans in the old days were people who believed in a different God, Gods, Goddess, etc. then the Jews or Christians. So to answer your question yes, the pagan religion is older then the Christian religion, but if you are asking about the Wiccan religion then no, the Wiccan religion is actually new age with very older roots.
Paganism is much older than Christianity. Even Christianity didn't begin till approximately 300 years after the Deity (or prophet) Christ walked this earth. One of the main reasons there is so much of Pagan ritual in Christianity is because of the need of the Roman government to convert pagans and it was thought it would be easier to use Winter & Spring solstice around the birth and resurrection of the Christ Deity....and incorporate some of the rituals into the observances. Santa Claus came much later....into the Christian ritual celebration. Santa Claus was originally Saint Nicholaus. There is much in the Pagan religion....(and it is a religion as well as a way of life), that Christianity "borrowed" from Paganism....or (perhaps easier to accept) paralleled events in Paganism...including a virgin birth. I am neither Pagan or Christian, but I have done extensive reading on both. Paganism is not so much about worship ping idols as it is about accepting the ideas of Gods and Goddesses. Even the "cross" held purpose in Paganism long before Christianity/Christ. Christianity actually believes in a trinity...the father, the son and the "holy spirit"....three Gods if you will. Most people who hold a certain religious belief will not study other religions/beliefs, although to do so would help them understand their own religion better. Paganism, Christianity, Islam and many other religions....all hold a major history and the practice of each in our world today has it's evolution...and revolution.....much of it based on government influence along the way.
Regardless of what Christians with no knowledge of the history of their faith will tell you, Paganism was around in many forms long before Christianity. That's why Christian holidays took over our holidays.
I don't understand why historical facts get brushed aside just because one group of people says so. Learn your history before you make outlandish claims.
Christianity did not come to the fore until the arrival of Jesus Christ who fulfilled the Old Law Covernant given to Moses.
The Law Covernant was given to the Nation of Israel to protect them,particularly their pure worship,as they were surrounded by pagan worshipers.
In his book "The Two Babylons" Dr. Alexander Hislop identifies the pagan god Tammuz with Nimrod,the founder of the city Babylon,about 180 years after the flood of Noah's day.
So yes pagan worship has been around a long time.
Paganism is often confused with the ancient religion of Pieganism or for the uninitiated the worship of delicious baked goods such as Cornish pasties and jam filled deep fried bounties, and in North America the much desired and drooled over blueberry pie often presented with the sacrament of the creme glace DE vanilla. Although never a mainstream religion Pieganism has veined it's influence through out the development of civilization with many far reaching aspects of this little understood belief still practiced to this very day. The date line of Pieganism does indeed precede all other beliefs by millennium and many famous personages are thought to have secretly practiced the faith, this explaining why it has survived in one form or another unlike so many false belief systems, which just couldn't stand up to the faithfuls desire to eat pie. Some historical quotes are still viewable on monuments the world over such as Queen Victoria's (Sovereign of the British Empire) notable expulsion "I like pie" displayed on the famous London bridge, and the ebullient words of Alexander the Great (Genocidal Maniac, King of Macedonia, Emperor of Persia, etc.) who's quote can still be made out carved in the Parthenon's upper den til fringe " Pie is good". Pieganism has strong associations to the Templar knights, the Mongol hordes, the fall of the Romanov dynasty, and the collapse of world banking as introduced by the Dutch in 1663. It would be well to remember that when your having a slice of pie your having a slice of world shaping his toy with every bite, so enjoy. Thank you for the opportunity to set the record straight, so many have suffered for want of pie.
Paganism is definitely older than Christianity. The Greco-Roman world into which Christianity was expanded was entirely pagan.
Now you may be asking if the Noe-paganism is older than Christianity, and that is more difficult to answer. It attempts to be a revival of the pristine religion before Christianity. However, do they succeed? Or have they really created something new? I'd say that depends on the group or individual which practices, and which scholar you talk to. I would say that they succeed at least for the most-part.
Is paganism an older relgion than christianity?
