The first statement that you said is actually the point of the debate. Where in the bible does it say anything about an age of accountability? We are born into sin. For by one man, sin entered the world. The only person to not fall into this sin was Christ because he was born of God. If this is the case, then babies do not in fact get to heaven. It is the same idea as if someone never hears the gospel of Christ, will they get a second chance in heaven, or are they condemned to hell because we as believers have failed to reach them with the good news of Christ.
The Bible never says all babies go to heaven, in fact 1 Cor 7:14 hints otherwise. Im not saying babies dint go to heaven or anything like that, just there is no biblical reference to it.
But I have often brought that idea up with those who believe "Once Saved Always Saved" try it, its fun
"So you cant lose Salvation?"
"No once you are saved you are always saved no matter what"
"Do you need to be saved to go to Heaven?"
"Yes"
"Do babies go to Heaven?"
"Of course"
"So they are saved?"
"Errrrr yes"
"So at what point do we lose our salvation?"
It's fun, they get confused and you can watch them flounder
I don't no the exact age but i think u are qualified at the age of 10. that's when u are old enough to no whats right and whats wrong especially if your parent's are raising u up n church.But at the same time GOD has no respect of person so.
I believe the age is around 11-12. That is when the child is considered old spiritually to be old enough to make his own choice. This is us ally when the bar Mitzah etc is held. However this doesn't count if the child is mentally challenge and will always be a child mentally no matter what their age is. Then God's grace is always with them.
There's no age depicted in the Word to say when, but because people from all walks of life come to the realization of their need for salvation at different times, it stands to reason that the young (mid/late teens) and older experience God's move in their lives the same way. If someone old enough to understand refuses God, they burn. He said that after a time he would "turn them over to a reprobate mind" which means He'll quit dealing with them in their hearts and let them live any way they choose knowing full well they have no more place in Heaven! It's sad to come to the realization that nothing in this life can put you back in God's graces after He's done dealing with you. He wants you to accept Him freely; not force Himself upon you.
No one goes to heaven when they die. Only Jesus has ascended to heaven. All dead, whether saved or unsaved, "sleep" until the resurrections, respectively.
"And why dost Thou not pardon my transgression, and take away my iniquity? for now shall I sleep in the dust..." Job 7:21
"So man lies down and does not rise. Till the heavens are no more, they will not awake nor be roused from their sleep." Job 14:12
"If a man dies, shall he live again? All the days of my hard service I will wait, till my change comes." (Job 14:14) Here we see that Job had some knowledge of the resurrection.
"Consider and hear me, O LORD my God; enlighten my eyes, lest I sleep the sleep of death..." Psalm 13:3 David compares death to sleep.
"As for me, I will see Your face in righteousness; I shall be satisfied when I AWAKE in Your likeness." Psalm 17:15 David was aware that the dead IN CHRIST are changed in the twinkling of an eye to become LIKE CHRIST...incorruptible and immortal...when the first resurrection occurs at Christ's return.
This verse tells us that all dead sleep until the resurrections: "And many of them that SLEEP in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt." Daniel 12:2
"NO MAN HAS ASCENDED TO HEAVEN but He who came down from heaven, that is, the Son of Man who is in heaven." (John 3:13)
Everyone else will be resurrected, each in his order, babies included. Through the miracle of resurrection, God brings back to life those who have died. (Revelation 20:4-5, Ezekiel 37:1-14, I Corinthians 15:20-54, I Thessalonians 4:15-16)
Since Jesus Christ is the only way to the Father, an opportunity to hear and believe and be saved awaits those who resurrected after the millennium (the Great Last Day of the Feast, John 7:37-38, Revelation 21:6)
All will have the same opportunity to respond to God when all is said and done. Many have already done so in this present age in which we live. Some have believed and some have rejected.
First of all baptism does not save any one. The Bible says "Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and though shalt be saved"
Second in Acts it says that God winks and ignorance. In psalms David and Bathsheba lost their child and he said in Psalm that he would see his child in heaven.
There is an age of accountability. It's different with each child. It's when they realize they are a sinner or that they do bad. Mentally slow people may never come to that age of accountability. They would go to heaven.
God loves children. Jesus said "Suffer not the children to come to me for theirs is the Kingdom of heaven"
Hope this helps
It depends on what you believe, doesn't it? My church teaches that you don't need to accept Jesus to be saved from hell. You just need to do your best to live a good life. There are believed to be different degrees to heaven. The highest, the dwelling place of God, can only be reached by Christ's disciples (IE, people who are "saved" and follow Him). Other good people can still go to the lesser degrees of heaven though. Hell is only for the worst sinners (e.g. people who have once had a witness of Christ and then reject Him). So going to hell doesn't depend on age, but on the sin; at least that's what I believe.
HELL IN KJV
One Hebrew word ?Sheol? is rendered hell. Definition; hades or the world of the dead (as if a subterranean retreat), grave, hell, pit. Three Greek words are rendered hell; Genna, hades, and Tartary. Definition of Genna; a valley of Jerusalem, used (figuratively) as a name for the place (or state) of everlasting punishment: - hell. Definition of hades; properly unseen, that is, ?Hades? or the place (state) of departed souls: - grave, hell. Definition of Tartary; (the deepest abyss of Hades); to incarcerate in eternal torment: - cast down to hell. Tartaroo is used only one place II Pet.2:4.
Christ teaching the Pharisees in Luke 16:19-31 shows us a separation from God is truly what hell is. The ?water? is symbolic for God?s Spirit and love. The word ?tormented? means distressed in the Greek, not torture. The ?fire? is symbolic for the shame and desire not to be separated from God.
So all who die the first death of the flesh return to God Ecc.12:6-7, but on which side of the gulf do they end up?
Hell is not eternal but is done away with in Rev.20:14-15, called both the second death and lake of fire. This second death is non-existence, for death and hell and those not written in the book of life. This second death or lake of fire is like fat drippings that fall into the fire. Just a poof of smoke into non-existence.
Psa.37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall be as the fat of lambs: they shall consume; into smoke shall they consume away.
In my mind what?s worse yet is no memory of you, no tears will be shed for you like you never existed.
Rev.21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
So hell is a separation from God and is not eternal torture or burning. Eventually hell will be done away with or passed away and also some souls. Like fat drippings in the fire, a poof of smoke into non-existence, the second death.
People are always speculating about this. Some say 8, 12, 13, and 21. Though I have only heard about 1 that was a good explanation. None of the others have a Biblical base to it. Just their analysis of psychosis I guess.
The best explanation I heard is as follows: People were not allowed into the promise land after the Moses sent the 12 out to spy. Only 2 came back saying that the land was processable. Because of their unbelief God told them they would have to wait. They couldn't have it until that whole generations past. Except the 2 who had a good report.
The age limit God set there was 21.
I am so sorry that so many people offer answers to questions like this; concepts of their own religions they don't understand at all. There is NO number. It's a silly question to ask, much less to argue over. See my other post to your question about infants and salvation: (it is pasted below for your other answerer's to view).
Nooo... don't let a foolish Christian misguide you. Many Christians believe that salvation CAN BE LOST. That's why many denominations, such as Catholics and Orthodoxes, they have "confession" in which you confess your sins and thereby remain "saved" and able to take communion.
Some other denominations (such as Baptists) would agree with your friend. They believe that God is NOT an "Indian giver." The bible states clearly that salvation is a gift, and God would NEVER take back a gift. That's (in a nut-shell--it actually gets much more in depth than this) why some people say "once saved, always saved." It is an argument that goes several hundred years back, and will probably never be completely resolved within the world of Christendom.
Your friend was right by saying that salvation is provided by God, through Jesus, to the repentant believing sinner. This statement is true. However, it also must be noted that the Old Testament saints were saved although they did not have a complete knowledge of the salvation act (see 1 Peter 1:10-11). So it is possible to be saved by God through Christ even if you don?t understand all the facts of the bible or if you aren't able to understand (such as the case with infants).
God is able to save infants that die by bringing them to him very early, sometimes even before birth. So how does this happen? It may be that in some way God allows the infant some type of intuitive awareness of God and self at the moment of his or her death, or just after death in a way that we simply cannot understand.
How many infants does God save in this way? Scripture does not tell us, so we simply cannot know. Where Scripture is silent, it is unwise for Christians to make definitive pronouncements. However, we should recognize that it is God?s frequent pattern throughout Scripture to save the children of those who really believe in him. So that's something else to consider.
The salvation of those who cannot cognitively understand their sinful condition or God?s cure is a mystery. It is not clearly revealed to us, but it does occur. (God saved David?s son in the Old Testament of the Bible). Beyond that, Christians must trust the fact that God does not WANT us to go to hell, but to be saved. Part of God?s nature is mercy and He bestows His mercy and His grace on whomever He chooses. Since God is all-knowing, He knows which babies will not have a chance at life outside the womb and if he wishes He can save them like David?s son.
I hope that this has shed a little light on a difficult issue. Thanks for this very interesting question that a lot of believers and non-believers alike struggle to answer.
I'm not rock solid about this, but I believe that if you are old enough to decide for yourself, and have been provided the information, and you deny the Lord's existence and refuse to follow him, that is when this protection expires.