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Old 06-21-2010, 12:27 PM
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Default Is the true goal of Christianity, to convert everyone into being like Ned Flanders?

I put a picture of Ned as way to show what I am talking about.
Anyway what say you?
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:27 PM
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Yes, thankfully...I exist to debate moron Evangelical Christians into a black hole. And, I'm not giving up.
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:27 PM
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This is the problem of religions. The true goal should be to PRACTICE your faith and be charitable. Too many people try to shove their brand of faith down people's throats.

Too many people feel that everyone that is not their religion is going straight to hell. It shouldn't matter what the religion is as long as you are kind to others, help others when you can, and you follow the laws of the community.
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Old 07-03-2010, 12:27 PM
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Ned is alright with me. He puts the fun back in fundamentalism. I think he is fine role model for Xians.
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Old 07-07-2010, 12:27 PM
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Ned Flanders is stereotypical of the fundamentalist Christian movement. Because each person has a different view of what the true goal of Christianity is, this question will never really be truly answered.
I guess it would be a diverse as asking, "Is the true goal of Paganism, to convert everyone into being a satanist?". If one doesn't even know Paganism, they might presume yes, because that is the stereotypical answer. But for someone who knows or studies Paganism, they would find that Pagans don't even believe in Satan at all.
So my thought here is this, Ned Flanders is a fundamentalist and not all Christians are fun dies.
Satanists actually believe in Satan, which means they would HAVE to believe that Christ even exists as set forth in the bible, where Pagans don't believe in either as set forth in the bible.
Summary, no one, not even the Christians as a whole, know the TRUE goal of Christianity because spirituality is individual.
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Old 07-08-2010, 12:27 PM
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Hi diddly-o there neighbor.
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Old 07-11-2010, 12:27 PM
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The simple answer is "No."

Now the complex answer.
Too many people confuse true Christianity with a religion. Religion has rules, "we vs. them" types of mentalities, and tends to try and conquer other people who think or believe differently. Not all religions are "religious" according to this type of definition. According to this we could easily cast the homosexuality movement as a religion, atheism as a religion, even Democrats and Republicans as a religion.

True Christianity is a relationship. A relationship between you and God. The Bible exists to help you understand how God want the relationship to work, what you are responsible for, and what He is responsible for. As with any good relationship there are great benefits with Christianity. Also, there are certain things you can do that will cause strife and pain to the relationship. The last component to this relationship is God wants to help you - just like you want to help your best friends. He tells you of things to avoid to help you live a better life and make good decisions. God is NOT a bully, is NOT a genie to do your bidding (although too many Christians treat him this way), and will not control your life. It's all based on FREE WILL.
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Old 07-16-2010, 12:27 PM
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Abso-diddly-widdily,
They want us all to be like Ned. It never seems enough for religious people to simply be happy with their own beliefs. They always have to try to impose them on others. They have to insist on broadcasting prayers in the public schools when they already have complete freedom to individual prayer. People like Joe McCarthy had to ruin the Pledge of Allegiance by adding "under God" to it and thus destroying any claim that we are "one nation, indivisible." They push their theocratic government on us, but they get offended if we ever question their beliefs. They attack our viewpoints all the time.
Sure, there are some nice religious people out there, but that is because they just try to be decent human beings, which is what Secular Humanism is all about. Working for the ultimate good of Humanity requires no god. In fact, as nice as religious people may sometimes be to other people, they always have the ulterior motive of proselytizing. That is part of their belief system. At least when a Humanist treats his fellow human beings with respect, there does not need to be an ulterior motive.
And to all you religious fanatics out there, please save your breath if you are going to say secular people practice the "religion of atheism." Secular social values are about as much of a religion as baldness is a color of hair.
I see my prophetic powers are far greater than the biblical prophets ever had, since lemonsEpheraldedADyyying atheism could be a religion. Interesting, he also thinks Christianity is NOT a religion. It is a "relationship with God," he claims, which is probably the only meaningful element in the definition of a religion. If religions are anything with rules, then baseball is a religion and spraying Jehovah's Witless on Sunday morning with a garden hose could also be a religion. But, it is more meaningful to differentiate between a rational philosophy like ethical Humanism and a relationship with an imaginary character, like Jesus, who has no compelling historical evidence to show that he really existed. Humanists do not need a messiah, they just trust people to think for themselves and use tools like Science and Philosophy to make the world a better place. The fundamental problem with failed philosophies like relgion is that they do not let you question things like god. In a real philosophy, knowledge is cumulative and progressive, and no questions are sacreligious.
If religion is about FREE WILL, make the ultimate act of free will and say that no deity is entited to your unquestioning devotion. If there were such a deity, he would be an evil, power-hunger a.s.s. (don't you hate how yahoo tries to sensor colorful language). Do you know how many religions there have been throughout history all claiming a "true relationship" with god? There are 34,000 sects of Christianity alone.
Gutless religious fanatics remind me of king Priam, desperately locked on his knees in the temple of Aphrodite as the city of Troy burned around him.
If an atheist died tomorrow and ended up standing before god, no just god would give a rat's butt that the atheist had not believed in god his whole life. That is a good thing too, because when you meet the one true god, Ganesh, all you have to do is offer him a peanut and not tell any elephant jokes
Bottom line: Do not wait for miracles. Make "miracles" by contributing to the greater good of Humanity and forget all the mystical mumbo jumbo.
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Old 07-20-2010, 12:27 PM
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hahahaahahahahaha...more and more today it seems that the conception that Christians have of what a Christian should be like is Ned Flanders. I mean, I assume that the character was created to represent the stereotypical Christian. The most rediculous thing is that the Ned Flanders Christians even give other Christians crap, who don't act like them. I personally think that Christians should be more like Homer Simpson, loosen up, and be real. I mean, this Ned Flanders crap seems so fake sometimes. Be real. If you wanna have a beer have a beer. If you wanna swear, swear. Just love others and love God, and be yourself while doing it. Don't show us Ned Flanders who represents merely a plastic soul, but show us your heart and let Homer Simpson out (the homer simpson that cares and loves others too).
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Old 07-25-2010, 12:27 PM
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Given the choice I think converting everyone makes them think the U.S. & world would be a better place.

I deleted it. Not YA. Aren't you the observant one.... Sorry, but due to unforeseen circumstances at the time, I thought it best. My apologies.
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