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Old 12-03-2008, 09:30 AM
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Default Are Druids (Druidism?) cosidered Germanic Pagans?

I would like to know how closely the Druids of ancient France and England are related to Germanic Paganism, specifically from the central European area.

All I know is that padrederesnism is related to Germanic Paganism, and in highschool I think they said there was a period of cultural exchange between the Norse and the native people of Britan when the Norse (Scandanavians? Vikings?) invaded.

Also, is there any source of information on the Germanic Paganism tradition itself? I can't find any info about it. I'm specifically interested in Germanic paganism, not Druids or Norse mythology, subjects on which there is an abundance of information.

I would love to get some real historical facts on this apparent mystery!
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Old 12-08-2008, 09:30 AM
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Druids, are Celtic, they are from the British Isles, so I don't think that they are considered Germanic Pagans, however I too would like to learn more about Germanic Paganism.
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Old 12-11-2008, 09:30 AM
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Old 12-16-2008, 09:30 AM
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The druids were the priestly class of the ancient Celts - not only in the British Isles, but also the Celtic/Gallic peoples in Gaul (France), Switzerland, Trace (part of what is now Greece), and Galatia (part of what is now Turkey). The term "Druid" was first used by ancient Greek writers and appears to have been derived from a word the Celts themselves used and which in turn derives from ancient Proto-Indo-European words meaning "steadfast" and "knowledge."

The Germanic peoples migrated into Europe from the Steppes during what is called the "V?lkerwanderung" or Migration Period which lasted from approximately A.D. 300-700. The Volkerwarderung is part of what helped push the Celts out of much Europe and into Brittany and the British Isles, isolating the Celts who were left in Galatia.

Not a lot is known about Germanic paganism since many of the tribes converted to Christianity soon after entering Europe. The Goths learned of Christianity from Roman soldiers they met along the Germanic frontier; the Burgundians became Arians (a form of Christianity) somewhere in the east as they traveled before they eventually settled on what is now the border between France and Germany. The Franks appear to have become Chrisitans very quickly. The Saxons held onto paganism the longest and many of them only became Christian after the (continental) Saxon territory was conquered by Charlemagne (a Frank).

The Saxons had a sacred tree called "Irminsul" that was similar to "Yggdrasil", the World Tree, in Norse tradition. This suggests that Germanic paganism was more closely related to Norse paganism than to Druidism.

Diana L. Paxson, in the "Background and References" section at the end of her novel _The Wolf and the Raven_ suggests that all of the Indo-European peoples migrating out of the east (including both Celtic and Germanic tribes, as well as others) at one time shared a common Earth-based religion, remnants of which can be seen in both Celtic and Gemanic traditions, but that the Germanic traditions were overlayed with Norse traditions - including a strong emphasis on Wodan/Odin.

However, a number of Old Norse scholars studying the origin of the Norse pantheon point out that Odin was a relative late-comer to the stories. One theory is that Wodan was originally a legendary High King, but contact with the Romans and knowledge of the Roman pantheon led to his elevation to chief God, so as to mimic the place of Jupiter/Zeus in the Greco-Roman system.

There was an awful lot of religious mixing and sharing of ideas during the Migration Period.
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