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Old 07-30-2008, 03:39 PM
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Default Is Eastern Orthodoxy As Error-Filled As Catholicism, or Worse?

We all know that the true Christians broke away from the Roman Church five hundred years ago because it was corrupt and evil. Since the EO churches are closes related, does that mean that they are equally bad, or worse?
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Old 08-02-2008, 03:39 PM
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Jesus promised, "I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:18). This means that his Church will never be destroyed and will never fall away from him. His Church will survive until his return.

Among the Christian churches, only the Catholic Church has existed since the time of Jesus. Every other Christian church is an offshoot of the Catholic Church. The Eastern Orthodox churches broke away from unity with the pope in 1054. The heretical protestant churches were established during the Reformation, which began in 1517. (Most of today?s Protestant churches are actually offshoots of the original Protestant offshoots.) Only the Catholic Church existed in the tenth century, in the fifth century, and in the first century, faithfully teaching the doctrines given by Christ to the apostles, omitting nothing.

The list of popes can be traced back to Peter himself, the first pope:
http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/12272b.htm

Jesus? Church is called catholic ("universal" in Greek) because it is his gift to all people. He told his apostles to go throughout the world and make disciples of "all nations" (Matt. 28:19?20). For 2,000 years the Catholic Church has carried out this mission, preaching the good news that Christ died for all men and that he wants all of us to be members of his universal family (Gal. 3:28). Nowadays the Catholic Church is found in every country of the world and is still sending out missionaries to "make disciples of all nations" (Matt. 28:19). The Church Jesus established was known by its most common title, "the Catholic Church," at least as early as the year 107, when Ignatius of Antioch used that title to describe the one Church Jesus founded. The title apparently was old in Ignatius?s time, which means it went all the way back to the time of the apostles.

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Old 08-06-2008, 03:39 PM
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JUST AS BAD

Any Church system, that continued priesthood is an affront and abomination to the fulfilled Great High Priesthood of Christ Jesus - so the Roman Catholic, Orthodox, Anglican, Marthoma........ all are false. They despised the full efficacy of the priesthood of Christ and bring forth another priesthood!!




OTHER ERRORS OF ROMAN CATHOLICISM


ABOUT PETER
The RCC claimed that Peter is the Rock when he is NOT.
1Co 10:4 ?. for they drank of that spiritual Rock? and that Rock (Petra, S's;S's mass of rock) was Christ.
Christ = Petra = ROCK

NOW FROM THE VERY MOUTH OF JESUS:
John 1:42 And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, He said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone (Greek: Petr's, ???????). Can we disagree with the very words of Jesus Christ or His interpretation? According to the Scriptures, Jesus affirms that Simon Peter is Cephas, a stone (Greek: pet'ros, ???????).

Simon Peter = cephas (??Aramaic) = a stone (Jesus? interpretation) = pet'ros = Greek = pet?ros = Peter

Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art pet'ros (a stone), and upon this petra (??????, ROCK, meaning upon Jesus Christ Himself) I will build My church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

Now, the word Cephas occur 6 times in the NT, every time it occurs; it meant Simon Peter....
......and, in the whole of the New Testament, the word ?Peter? occurs in 156 verses (162 hits); and every time it occurs, the word in Greek for Simon Peter is pet'ros (??????? a stone aka Cephas).

?Peter = petros? ; ?petra = Rock = Jesus?

If only there is one honest Roman Catholic out there who can show me Peter = petra (Rock)



ABOUT MARY
Mary was born sinner, and after the birth of Christ, offered two turtle doves (Luke 2) according to the law of Moses in Lev 12; one turtledove for BURN offering and the other for SIN OFFERING, and thus Mary by her action and confession....
Luk 1:47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. For he hath regarded the low estate of his handmaiden: for, behold, from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed.

and she needed a Saviour (Luke 1:46-47), badly!!

No Immaculate Conception of Mary, No Assumption of Mary



ABOUT WORSHIP OF MARY
When the wise men came from the East, they worshipped '''HIM"'....Mat 2:11 And when they were come into the house, they saw the young child with Mary his mother, and fell down, and worshipped him: and when they had opened their treasures, they presented unto him gifts; gold, and frankincense, and myrrh.: ????

They DID NOT WORSHIPPED "'THEM??
They DID NOT WORSHIPPED "'HER'"

THEY WORSHIPPED HIM, Praise God.
The wise men from the East were right, would you also follow them??
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Old 08-10-2008, 03:39 PM
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Originally, people broke away from the Catholic church so it would be easier to divorce.
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Old 08-14-2008, 03:39 PM
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so you're saying the Holy Spirit abandoned the Christians for 1500 years?



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Old 08-19-2008, 03:39 PM
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all you need to start a church is a grudge and a cup of coffee
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Old 08-24-2008, 03:39 PM
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You are wrong in your first statement. TRUE CHRISTIANS were never part of the Roman Catholic system to begin with.
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Old 08-28-2008, 03:39 PM
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Catholicism upholds the traditions of our forefathers and preserves the Truth. We are connected to everyone who ever lived before during and after Christ. The Holy Bible is our guide, and the rites and rituals, the dogma that everyone finds so irritating is actually in the Old Testament. "Not one iota of the law will be done away with." (to paraphrase a not so well quoted quote.)
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Old 08-29-2008, 03:39 PM
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Ode to the Damned: No, just NO. You are mistaking the actions of King Henry VIII to that of the reformation.

But to the the original question, as a Catholic, I am to believe that any other breakaway Christian sect is not the true Church of Jesus Christ, since the Catholic Church is the only church in existence since the time of Christ. (And believe me, I am respectful and tolerant to other people's beliefs, but don't call my religion corrupt and evil, that's not very Christian of you, now is it?)
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Old 09-01-2008, 03:39 PM
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If everyone prayed and asked God to save them and fill them with the Holy Spirit and lead and guide them into all truth they would soon find that much of their thinking is wrong because of man's teaching
Jesus is the way the Truth and the Life and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit of Truth; He will clear up all the confusion
If someone wrote you a love letter (the Bible) who could interpret it the best, the one who wrote it or someone who uses his reasoning? God gave us His word ;
Romans 10:9,10 that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved;
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Old 09-04-2008, 03:39 PM
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"Christians broke away from the Roman Church". This is an incorrect statement. Catholics ARE Christians. In fact, they are the first Christian Church. They have their failings, but so do all other churches. Look at all the fundamentalist churches in the USA that preach that you need only pray one simple prayer to be saved forever. These same churches steal people's money and preach hate against other religions. Are they truly Christian?

The Orthodox Church is just a branch of Christianity, and off-shoot of Catholicism just like all other Churches. I think that (almost) all mainline Churches are flawed and in error in some way. But all of them also have a message of truth, are filled with the Holy Spirit, and contain the proper messages and teachings necessary for salvation. I just think that ANY institution control ed by humans is flawed and filled with errors.
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Old 09-08-2008, 03:39 PM
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They have fewer things a Protestant would disagree with than Catholics do, Protestants (generally speaking) accept the doctrines of the universal Church up until the Third Ecumenical Council. Orthodox accept them up until the Seventh Council, and Catholics are still even now holding Councils from time to time (Vatican II was the last one, I think). Since the four Eastern Church patriarchs had just as much authority as the pope did, I would say that when they all got together and excommunicated him for heresy, they now have a better claim to being the One True Church than the Roman church does. But nevertheless, I do not and never have thought that church membership would save anybody, regardless of which church they belonged to. The church I belong to considers the One True Church to be the mystical union of all true believers, regardless of what name is on the door. . . therefore we don't need to think that anybody else is a heretic.
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