Hinduism...Explain the following Gita verse according to the theory of Karma?
'Yada Yada Hi Dharmasya, Glanirva Bhavathi Bharatha, Abhyuthanam Adharmasya, Tadatmanam Srijami Aham' - Meaning 'Whenever and wherever there is a decline in righteous practice, O descendant of Bharata, and a predominant rise of wrong, at that time I shall descend Myself.'
So how will Krishna be born again according to the theory of Karma? According to the theory of Karma, only the one who have some paapa karmas balance will be born on the earth to balance that karma. What is the paapa karma of Krishna to be born again?
Please dont tell me that he is God and he can do anything. If he is to be born as a human being he should have some karmas left in him. Similarly How was Vamana, Parashurama, Rama and Krishna born as human beings with respect to the theory of Karma? Your inputs please.
God is away from Karma & its Rules & Regulations. While God was reborn as a boon given against their penances. For Krishna to be Reborn, it does not mean getting reborn as Krishna but as other personality to a couple who are pure, moral & righteous in times of desperation.
God does not become human but in human form. God comes because humanity cries out for a Saviour . God descends on earth on his own free will & desire & does not need the Terms & Conditions of Karma to be called on.
It is for us lesser mortals that rules apply but since he is the Creator, he has a Right to Entry, Forever. It is for our justifications that he gets born rather than appear in his Heavenly Avatar one fine day.
One who knows the transcendental nature of My appearance and activities does not, upon leaving the body, take his birth again in this material world, but attains My eternal abode, O Arjuna.
PURPORT
The Lord's descent from His transcendental abode is already explained in the 6Th verse. One who can understand the truth of the appearance of the Personality of Godhead is already liberated from material bondage, and therefore he returns to the kingdom of God immediately after quitting this present material body. Such liberation of the living entity from material bondage is not at all easy. The impersonality's and the yogis attain liberation only after much trouble and many, many births. Even then, the liberation they achieve -- merging into the impersonal Brahmagupta of the Lord -- is only partial, and there is the risk of returning to this material world. But the devotee, simply by understanding the transcendental nature of the body and activities of the Lord, attains the abode of the Lord after ending this body and does not run the risk of returning to this material world. In the Brahma-smite (5.33) it is stated that the Lord has many, many forms and incarnations: atavism accustom anatomy anent-rupam. Although there are many transcendental forms of the Lord, they are still one and the same Supreme Personality of Godhead. One has to understand this fact with conviction, although it is incomprehensible to mundane scholars and empiric philosophers. As stated in the Vedas (Purusa-bodging Upanisad):
eko devo nitya-lilanurakto
bhakta-vyapi hrdy antar-atma
"The one Supreme Personality of Godhead is eternally engaged in many, many transcendental forms in relationships with His unalloyed devotees." This Vedic version is confirmed in this verse of the Gita personally by the Lord. He who accepts this truth on the strength of the authority of the Vedas and of the Supreme Personality of Godhead and who does not waste time in philosophical speculations attains the highest perfectional stage of liberation. Simply by accepting this truth on faith, one can, without a doubt, attain liberation. The Vedic version tat tvam asi is actually applied in this case. Anyone who understands Lord Krsna to be the Supreme, or who says unto the Lord "You are the same Supreme Brahman, the Personality of Godhead," is certainly liberated instantly, and consequently his entrance into the transcendental association of the Lord is guaranteed. In other words, such a faithful devotee of the Lord attains perfection, and this is confirmed by the following Vedic assertion:
tam eva viditvati mrtyum eti
nanyah pantha vidyate 'yanaya
"One can attain the perfect stage of liberation from birth and death simply by knowing the Lord, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and there is no other way to achieve this perfection." (Svetasvatara Upanisad 3.8) That there is no alternative means that anyone who does not understand Lord Krsna as the Supreme Personality of Godhead is surely in the mode of ignorance and consequently he will not attain salvation simply, so to speak, by licking the outer surface of the bottle of honey, or by interpreting the Bhagavad-gita according to mundane scholarship. Such empiric philosophers may assume very important roles in the material world, but they are not necessarily eligible for liberation. Such puffed-up mundane scholars have to wait for the causeless mercy of the devotee of the Lord. One should therefore cultivate Krsna consciousness with faith and knowledge, and in this way attain perfection.
http://vedabase.net/bg/4/9/en2
So you are trying to sow dissent in the minds of followers. Evidently you are a anti Hindu carrying on a malicious campaign in the name of Questions. No Hindu would least care for your noxious campaigns! They know the meanings and do not want your approvals for the sacred declarations.
You wish to provoke at least a few sensitive Hindus, among the peace loving community to create disharmony in the forum. I hope you won't succeed.
either i could not understand your theory or find your perception to be wrong
Krishna, Vanna, presumeAMArama etc are not born out of karma.,but they are known as avataraas the god taking birth in human form to destroy evil,
and the law of the birth of a ordinary human can not be applied here
pl reread the sloka you have mentioned
'Yada Yada Hi Dharmasya, Glanirva Bhavathi Bharatha, Abhyuthanam Adharmasya, Tadatmanam Srijami Aham' - Meaning 'Whenever and wherever there is a decline in righteous practice, O descendant of Bharata, and a predominant rise of wrong, at that time I shall descend Myself.'
now whether krishna is born/to be born my answer is yes.
being a religious man you have several times read/heard about the dasavatharas and the purpose of dasavatharas is also known to you , to destroy the evil when it becomes unbearable to the common man/ devotees
and kalkyavathara is still awaited
We fathoms are born out of karma (Karma denim). But Lord Vishnu takes birth out of Kirupa (Kirupa denim). Sri Krishna is taking birth out of mercy upon us. He also says that in Bagawad Gita that Midas will equate Him with humans.
You ha vent understood the concept of rebirth and karma properly.I have already asked a question which was somewhat related to this -Whether An enlightened person , can opt for rebirth if he has the desire the have another birth.Its said that one attains Moksha only when one is totally free from desires because desires leads to karma.
A person attains enlightenment when he has realized the Brahman within himself ,that is "I'm Brahman (or I'm the Atman/Consciousness/God).Why is it not possible for such an enlightened person to take a rebirth,with the realization (I'm Brahman or God),where such a person could very well turn out to be an av tar of God Himself?
God is like energy.You all know there is a law of conservation of energy which says energy can never be created nor destroyed but can be transformed from one form to another,this energy or God can be transformed through realization and rebirth.
Assume Man to be like matter and God to be energy.Like we all know according to Einstein's theory
E=MC2 where Matter is converted to energy, likewise, at enlightenment, Man become God
There is a story behind four major avatar of
Raam
Krishna
var ah
narcing.
Once upon a time a SANKADI RISHIS WANTED TO MEET VISHNU.
BUT AT WESTERN DWAAR OF VAIKUNTH THE TWO DWAARPALS NAMED JAY AND VIJAY OBSTRUCTED THESE RISHIS.
RISHIS GAVE CURSE TO JAY/VIJAY THAT THEY WILL BE BORN FOUR TIMES AS RAAKSHAS ON EARTH.
LATER WHEN VISHNU CAME VISHNU PROMISED THAT HE WILL GIVE FREEDOM TO THEM BY ABOVE MENTIONED AVATARS.
THESE PAIRED DEMONS WERE
HINYAKSH/HIRANYAKASHIPU
MADHU/KAITAVH
RAVAN/KUMBHKARN
KANS/SHISHUPAL
HARI KO MAYA BHANDH NAHI SAKTI BUT HE LOVES TO GET BINDED BY ANYTHING FOR HIS BHAKTAS
LIKE
RAADHAS LOVE
SUDAMA
SHABRI
AHILYA
PRAHLAD
MIRA
AND LIST GOES ON..
The Bhagavad-Gita is the epic / story that narrate the teaching of God himself to Arjun who is just an ordinary human being like us. The circumstances of Arjun are our own. Knowledge is available but the problem is to succeed to use this knowledge and learning to take good decisions in our life.
Krishna (God) explains to us via Arjun that we cannot foresee the future in the present. The best way to work our possible actions and decisions is on the basis of our karma and drama. In other works, we take decisions and act on the basis of our conscience that should be fair and just.
Krishna explains to Arjun that taking actions and decisions on this basis is the best way to sort out difficult scenarios and circumstances. This relieves us from our duty and we can die peacefully since we do not have to blame ourselves for any wrong decision and so on. We just did what was possible according to our conscience, available knowledge, help and learning.
'Yada Yada Hi Dharmasya, Glanirva Bhavathi Bharatha, Abhyuthanam Adharmasya, Tadatmanam Srijami Aham? this mantra is something like motive management. It gives us an impetus every day to follow our karma and dharma well.
Hinduism...Explain the following Gita verse according to the theory of Karma?
