What is your reaction to the Enquiry Panel clearing BJP & Hindu groups in Karnataka c
Wherever there was any communal clashes, anywhere in the country, the blame was put on the BJP and Hindu outfits for known reasons, principally by the Congress party!
Now the Panel's findings had belied the propaganda of political adversaries:
Bangalore, Jan 28 (IANS) The Bharatiya Janata Party (BJP), its government in Karnataka and pro-Hindu outfits had no hand in the series of attacks on churches in the state in 2008, a judicial panel said Friday.
'There is no basis to the apprehension of petitioners that politicians, BJP, sang ha privier (as pro-Hindu outfits are called) and the state government are directly or indirectly involved in the attacks,' the panel, headed by retired Karnataka high court judge, B.K. Somashekara, said in its findings.
The Somashekara panel said the main reasons for the attack on churches were circulation of literature derogatory to Hindus and attempts at conversion of Hindus to Christianity.
It also did not find any truth in allegations that top police officials and civil administration in the area where churches were vandalised had colluded with the attackers.
The panel, however, was critical of police and civil administration for not treating the Christians protesting the attacks sympathetically.
The commission was set up in October 2008 to probe attacks on churches in the coastal town of Mangalore and in Udupi, Chikamagalur, Kolar, Chikkaballapur, Bellary and Davangere districts in September 2008. The panel said it had received 1,500 petitions and examined over 800 people.
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Would the Congress and other pseudo seculars like SP etc stop their evil propagandas against political opponents and contest them on policy issue basis?
what are your thoughts?
The hateful and bitter comments of an eminent user are understandable. Nobody complains about Dr Singh for petty things. The abetment of Spectrum scandal, the appointments of bureacrats involved in CWG scams, the appointment of CVC and mention any big lapse and the PM is in the picture! What is the meaning in abusing the opposition?!
There was a good ref cited by the eminent user, but all his good arguments are lost in the dish of hate and subjecitivty he displays in the presentation! All the calculated mispropaganda the rulers played to disarm the major opposition, in order to stay in power are getting totally nullified by increasing exposures of their own scandals! So the frustration shows up in the fans spitting hate in every poser!
Just because somebody claimed to have done something, the person may not be prosecuted in the court. There are motives to project themselves as great heros by many letter pad parties also. They may even be covering up some other groups for wrong reaso
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.. reasons and the Enquiry Commission has a duty to look between the lines, for clues to the motives! OK, I assume the right performance of duty by the Panel. And the antagonists of Govt of K are free to have their own perceptions!
They would claim Rajiv has been absolved of any link in bofors or that the party leaders didn't have any role in the atrocities on Sikhs post Indira murder, but would not brook the verdict if the same institutions absolved the opposition parties of the alleged Kargil war scams or role in post Godhra violence etc!
It is the way of the neo politicians!! Did not Sibal expose his wisdom recently by denying the himalayan scandal of Spectrum licencing?! If a legal luminary at Ministerial level is so dishonest, how can we expect the party fans at field level to be different?!!
Two bad things are evident in the mispropagandas of the Congress men: Firstly they wish to downplay the provocation and insults of some missionaries that invite hostile atta
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.. hostile attacks. This emboldens the fundamentalist segments to continue the evil of inciting conflicts!
And secondly political advantage is sought to be gained by thrusting a blemish on Hindu ooutfits and the major opposition party at the cost of truth and social harmony! It is most unbecoming of a national party to engage in such diabolical moves to gain edge over its political opponent !
We would expect at least our eminent user here to try to be objective, for the sake of the great respect we show to his contributions!
how much power this panel had is important before giving any comments because in the past so many panels have given reports which were not up to the mark.
I don't know the party affiliations of Dr Jayaram and Roberta but assume they are neutral persons. Yes, we have serious misgivings about the reports of Enquiry Committees / Panels, since it is the Govt that appoints the Enquiry team and often Govt itself is in the defensive at least indirectly! But it may be highly paranoid to dismiss all judges as influenced by the rulers, even though it is not always any judge that is favored with the assignment that would carry fat remuneration!
We had to believe that first family of INC did not benefit from boffos kickbacks, or that there was no role for congress leaders in the Sikh carnage! But if the BJP is acquitted in Gujarath case or whatever, all congress men would question the investigations! Pure politics we see around! BJP does work for Hindu interests but not anti minority, though some over zealot Hindu outfits fight conversion agendas etc violently, outside any political purview's!
I hope the investigation was fair, since BJP would be least willing to play into hands of over zealots after the damages they had suffered in the post Godhra incidence. Even the same Modi is able to win repeatedly including in majority muslim constituencies, but the pseudo seculars would not accept the probity of Modi!
No Asker, the congress men would not accept the verdict for known reasons! They can not contest the major opponent on any political issue other than communalism (?)!
On this score, I hope you don't believe that BJPs are any angels in politics!
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As I indicated above, a congress fan already denied the report. If only the finding was against Hindu outfits, needless to say that his tone would have been totally different! After all congres govt had set up an Enquiry Commission on Spectrum when already CBI had taken the case under SC purview and other Enforcement depts are at work to unearth the booties!
In an earlier post, the esteemed user had even denied the revelations in a reputed Swiss magazine because the info was taken from a Gurumoorthy's article. The journos like Guru had not been indicted in any crime or malefic deals and are more credible than the Sibals and Pranabls of the ruling elite!
The point made by Asker about the Panel not probably taking the Bajrang's statement for a conclusion straight away, was valid. The paper news depended upon by the eminent respondent, could suffer more solid dismissal than his own rubbishing the Swiss magazine! For news reports / media findings have no major role in official investgations! They may take some clue for interrogation and confirmation, but not totally rely on them as evidence!
OK, leave congress men to themselves! If indeed the Panel was biased, which we don't know for sure, it was most condemnable. But it would be preposterous to do speak on presumptions. After all the Godhra and Masjid stories are going on for years! It is best to leave issues to police / Lok pals than conduct Enquiry by Commissions appointed by Govts!
In fact, it would be fair to ask the High Court / SC to appoint a Commission from among eminent jurists if need be, rather than choosing one from the ruler's choice. This may lend more credibility to the enquiries!
Now the opposition demands for another commission as it is not acceptable and it is biased.For example like Mahican commission on border dispute.The problem is that we are not gentlemen.
Before I start answering on panel and its observations, let me first answer your allegations on Congress and congress supporters. Anywhere in India, anything goes wrong, say even a street dog gets loose motions that is because of Dr. Manmohan Singh, his government and Congress. That is the basic philosophy of entire opposition and its fan on the forum. Then what is wrong if Congress and Congress fan blame Sangh Pariwar for communal riots in India looking at the history in India where Sangh Pariwar is named in majority of it post independence. I guess there are very exceptional cases like this one where they are cleared.
Now coming to this particular report. I don't know how to react to this panel's report. Justice says, Sangh Pariwar is not involved, well who am I to contradict that. Justice says, government is not involved, who am I contradict that. Honorable justice, you have spent 3 years of time, please tell us who is involved? Any sane person will not believe that common man did this. Without any organized group attacking churches, this violence cannot happen. Incidentally, Bajarang Dal had taken responsibility of the attacks on the churches in Karnataka. But honorable Justice is better person to judge, who am I to question his observation. I have several such questions but whom do I ask? But final think is Justice has given clean chit to Yeddi, at last he got news that he badly needed.
Edit: First of all, anyone who says that Congress leaders were not involved in 1984 attacks on Sikh, he or she is out of their mind. I have never said that and never support such insane arguments.
Secondary, to make long story short, if the links provided my me are not sufficient to prove that Sangh Pariwar is involved in communal riots in India incidentally, I read another news in news papers today, and that is not any observation from any panel, or any comment from any politician, or any comment from any user, but incidentally it is a decision from Supreme Court of India, where Supreme Court has canceled the bail of riot convicted BJP MLA from Orissa.
You say panel gave clean chit to Sangh Pariwar, and I have provided you confession of Bajarang Dal where they claim responsibility of Karnataka attack on Christians, I presented court's decision to convict BJP MLA where High Court granted Bail and Supreme court not only slams High Court but also canceled the bail. Please let me know if you want 100s or more such links.
Rajiv Gandhi was not cleared by any Panel but by Delhi High court post death. Just for your information. These Panels are burden on Tax Payers Money, and nothing more than that. These are just post retirement job for government employees. I just want to know, WHO WAS BEHIND THE ATTACKS?
Last but not the least, I highly object the usage of "Hindu outfit" these are not Hindu Outfit but misusing Hinduism for political purposes. Hindus have not given them contract to represent them.
Congress men will not even accept "the sun rises in the east .........................so, don't bother about them.If it was anti-Hindus definitely these inks will come to the street and shout against Hindus.They are the real enemies of Hindus.Let them read Mahabharatha and Ramanaya.
What is your reaction to the Enquiry Panel clearing BJP & Hindu groups in Karnataka c
