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Old 07-01-2010, 03:33 PM
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Default Anyone know the rules about Islam?

Here's the deal, my cousin recently converted to Islam. Well, when she returned from a three week trip to Egypt, we all threw her a "Welcome Home" party (and by "we all" I mean our family). Our Gramps was there, and after months of not seeing her went in for a hug. Now.... apparently, she is not allowed to hug our Gramps because he is not blood related, even though he has been in our family since my cousin was two. It is acceptable for people in the Islam culture to marry everyone except their immediate family, including first cousins. This is what my cousin told me. I have read through the Quaran in hopes to gain new understanding, but I have seen nothing that would forbid my cousin from hugging our grandpa. Is there something I'm missing? She studies Shuria law... I'm not sure of the differences here, but this has caused unwanted turmoil among our family and some insight would be appreciated!!
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Old 07-06-2010, 03:33 PM
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Islam is a fail religion, there is no such thing as "Allah"
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Old 07-08-2010, 03:33 PM
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>>Is there something I'm missing?

Yes: your cousin can be an ungrateful brat. I've never heard of a Muslim woman who couldn't hug her own grandparent.
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Old 07-13-2010, 03:33 PM
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Yes according to Islam she cannot touch your grandfather because not a Mariam. Mahram means an acceptable relative where contact is allowed. She cannot touch or look into the eyes of male first cousins, step male siblings, foster brothers, adopted brothers and brother in law.

Step father is fine as long as he had sex with the mother. If he never slept with the mother then she cannot contact him.

Goes a bit further. you cannot call your step parent or adoptive parents mother or father and cannot adopt there last name. I know one guy who converted to Islam who changed his last name to his mothers maiden name and started calling his step father(who has been in his life since he was 2) by his first name. Because in Islam your father is only your birth father. His mother didn't know who his real father was, which is why he took his moms maiden name.

I should add she cannot call that guy grandpa either, she has to call him by his real name, since it would be considered an insult to the birth grandfather.
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Old 07-15-2010, 03:33 PM
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Im not understanding his affiliation to your family.. Is he married to your grandmother? If he is that it's perfectly fine for her to hug him, be without hi jab around him.

You have to cover and have limited physical contacts with males who are not your father, brothers/brothers in law, uncles, and any other male that has been married into your family.
Maybe she is confused and misinterpreting the rules as she is a new Muslim, have her read up
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Old 07-19-2010, 03:33 PM
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Yeah, you will find that the rules of what you can or can not do are together known as Sharia law. While Sharia law has a small basis in the Quran, it is mostly based on the Hadith collections. So basically, the majority of the rules which govern the daily lives of Muslims are not found in the Quran. However the broader picture guidelines are mostly in the Quran though. So in that sense you are unlikely to learn about the little rules by reading the Quran.

Sorry, I know its not very useful.
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Old 07-22-2010, 03:33 PM
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Ok so here we go
1) Yes in Islam, it is strictly forbidden to hug non-family
Having said that, Muslims today have to stop being so extreme and narrow minded about their beliefs and realize that we live in a society far different than that of the time of the Prophet (PBUH). In other words, I find it utterly disgusting how she is not hugging her grandpa (even if not blood related). She should be ashamed of herself and tell her what she is doing is completely Islamic.
2) Sharia law - yo. Please tell her to stop reading it. Sharia law is man-made law which varies for every country. Once again, these are laws made in response to one society and therefore is not a universal rule that can be applied to other nations

So tell her to fear God and hug her grandpa! There is nothing wrong with it - if anything, her NOT hugging him is even worse
And PLEASE tell her to stop studying Sharia law
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