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Old 06-29-2010, 10:50 PM
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Default can a heavily bloodstained religion such as Islam defend its legitimacy any more?

can a heavily bloodstained religion such as Islam defend its legitimacy any more?
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Old 07-02-2010, 10:50 PM
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all AbrahamICCeligions are bloodstained.
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Old 07-07-2010, 10:50 PM
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The Christians are doing it.
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Old 07-08-2010, 10:50 PM
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It's still the second largest religion in the world.

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Old 07-09-2010, 10:50 PM
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about as much as the blood-stained religion known as Christianity

I'm sure the holy crusades did more damage than the modern Islamic extremists
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Old 07-14-2010, 10:50 PM
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You could say the same for Christianity, or Mormonism.

I mean the various problems, and massacre...

What does being "good" have to do with being right? :-)

Does a religion have to be "Good" to be right? I wouldn't think so... Just because we wouldn't like to live in a hellish world where people are burned for eternity for the slightest transgression doesn't mean it isn't true. Why would the religion be any different than the tortures it claims are in store?

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Old 07-17-2010, 10:50 PM
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Consider all of the people that the Catholics killed during the crusades and the inquisition.

Just because something is wrong doesn't mean it isn't 'legitimate' as well. Catholicism has probably shed more blood than Islam over the centuries. You should be criticizing that instead.
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Old 07-21-2010, 10:50 PM
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What religion is not bloodstained? Islam, Christianity, Judaism - all the world's major religions have led to terrible human waste of life.

If any of them help people to live in harmony and give them inner peace ( as all three religions do for millions of people) then that is legitimacy enough.
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Old 07-26-2010, 10:50 PM
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They try to do so by spilling more blood.
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Old 07-28-2010, 10:50 PM
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Islam is a religion of Peace.
We Muslims keep our Merciful Creator?s instructions in mind,as Allah tells us: ?Keep to forgiveness. And enjoin kindness?7:199. ?And do good, that happily you may prosper.?22:77. ?Peace is best? 4:128.?? and offer peace,?God gives you no excuse to fight ..." (Al-Infaal: 61). ??and do good; no doubt good doers are the beloved of Allah? 2:195. ?And speak ?with gentle speech?20:44. ??and race with one another to do good.?2:148 ?We have enjoined on man, kindness??29:8.?And do not insult?? 6:108 ?Allah orders justice and kindness..?16:90
Allah instructs us thus:
"You will not kill. God has made life sacred,?An?am:51. Our Merciful Creator has made all life sacred, whether Muslims or not. But some people/non-Muslims might say, ?God has ordered us to commit violence against non-Muslims and Muslims? and these very people shall go around committing crimes, and perhaps call themselves Muslims while engaged in criminal activities-About them Allah informs us in the Quran:?They commit a gross sin, then say, "?God has commanded us to it." We Muslims should answer with the Truth of The Quran: "God never advocates sin. Are you saying about God what you do not know?"?(Quran: Surah Al-A?Rafa: 28) . God Orders Muslims in the Quran: "You will not kill... These are His commandments to you, that you may understand." (6:151). And about the Quran, Allah informs us: ?Falsehood cannot approach it from before it or from behind it; It is a revelation from the (Lord who is) Wise and Praiseworthy?.41:42
Islam is a religion of Peace, Love, Unity and Equality. Islam never allows violence. Quran never condones violence. And Our Lord never advocates sin. ?The knowledge thereof is with my Lord, in a Record. My Lord neither errs nor forgets.? 20:52. "God never advocates sin. Are you saying about God what you do not know?"?(Quran: Surah Al-A?raafh: 28)
Our Merciful Creator teaches us as denizen of the world, we are to abide by rules set by Him if we are to be His True Believers. ?If you should raise your hand against me to kill me-I shall not raise my hand against you?Indeed, I fear Allah, Lord of the worlds?. 5:28
The Quran, the Final Testament, is indeed the word of our Lord, The Almighty , The Wise. ?And when Our clear verses are recited to them, the people who do not expect to meet Us say, "Bring a Qur?an other than this one, or change it"; say (O dear Prophet Mohammed - peace and blessings be upon him), "I do not have the right to change it on my own; I only follow what is divinely revealed to me; if I were to disobey my Lord , then I fear the punishment of the Great Day (of Resurrection).? [Quran: Jonah 10:15]
Allah, the Owner of Might and Glory, forbids Muslims from associating any partners unto Allah, and to refrain from violence:
"Whoever killed a soul not to retaliate for a soul, nor for creating disorder in the land, then it is as if he had killed all mankind. And whoso gave life to one soul, then it is as if he had given life to all mankind" (The Noble Quran: Surah Al-Mai da, Verse 32)


Jesus tells us_?Suppose ye that I am come to give peace on Earth? I tell you, Nay;but rather division: ? See also Matthew 10: 34-36.
-Blessed are the Peacemakers
In his sermon on the mount Jesus was quoted as saying(Matthew 5:9): ?Blessed are the peacemakers: for they shall be called the children of God.?
Islam means also Peace: peace between the Creator and the worshiper. Jesus could not mean his mission as peacemaker as he did not come for peace. (Matthew 10:34-36):?Think not that I am come to send peace on earth. I came not to send peace, but a sword..?See also Luke 12:49-53
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