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Old 06-17-2010, 12:11 AM
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Default do people realise that atheists can be religious, eg. Jainism, Taoism, Buddhism?

some say that they are more philosophies on life, but the mysticism and profound spirituality often ties it closer to religion then mere philosophy

just because one doesn't believe in god/gods doesn't mean they cant believe in fairies or souls or magic or daemonic sacrifice of virgins.
Buddhism is based around the teachings of Buddha. kind of like Confucius but less mind bending and more "religious" in nature

Buddhisms driving force is
-Karma (from Sanskrit: "action, work") in Buddhism is the force that drives Samara?the cycle of suffering and rebirth for each being-
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Old 06-18-2010, 12:11 AM
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oh well
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Old 06-19-2010, 12:11 AM
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Good point.
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Old 06-21-2010, 12:11 AM
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Does not compute.
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Old 06-26-2010, 12:11 AM
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atheists cant be Buddhist since there is a Buddhist god, atheists don't believe in any of that, they believe in science
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Old 06-27-2010, 12:11 AM
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*applause* Well said.
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Old 06-30-2010, 12:11 AM
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I already realized that atheism has been associated with those religions even before you brought up this question. This means now that I can focus on the good bits since you have opened the gates: attacking Jainism, Taoism, and Buddhism.
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Old 07-05-2010, 12:11 AM
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You lie!
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Old 07-07-2010, 12:11 AM
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Technically we can, but come on. Hardly anybody who self-identifies as an atheist also calls themselves a Jainist or a Buddhist. Or vice verse.

The only requirement of being an atheist is that you don't believe in god. But in practice, a lot of us are just plain skeptical of spirituality in general, including non-theistic spirituality.
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Old 07-09-2010, 12:11 AM
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Um...most people who associate religion with deities will not get it.
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Old 07-13-2010, 12:11 AM
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No, they are too close-minded...I mean "open" minded and freer for that.
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Old 07-14-2010, 12:11 AM
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True I'm an atheist and I'm Buddhist.
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Old 07-17-2010, 12:11 AM
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Just like the people that are only good because their God told them to be, it just doesn't mean the same thing if you sacrifice a virgin because your God said to. Atheists do it because THEY think its a good idea.
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Old 07-19-2010, 12:11 AM
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Good luck. I've tried in the past to convince people in this forum that religion is defined by scholars of the field as "belief in transcendence rather than gods only" and that therefore, one can be both an atheist and very religious and faithful to a religion tradition -- but I've always been shouted down (despite a D.Phil. from Oxford in this field of study). Yes, the cop-out "that is a philosophy of life, not a religion" is the rationalization of the uneducated. (Indeed, I have been surprised that it tends to be the atheist participants here who are most adamant about that. They apparently don't like the share the "atheist" label with anybody they consider "religious", such as Zen Buddhists. Facts don't matter.)
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Old 07-21-2010, 12:11 AM
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Buddha doesn't demand you believe anything. He said to find out for yourself if the drama is true. And the driving force I would say is freedom from suffering (not the end of it but a different way of processing it.) Karma and Samara are more sidebars.
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Old 07-22-2010, 12:11 AM
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By definition, religion centers around a deity or many gods. There are exceptions, but then they aren't religions. They would be philosophies or beliefs which make certain claims upon reality.
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Old 07-27-2010, 12:11 AM
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Atheists, by definition, cannot be religious. For they do not follow the teachings of organized religion.

However, there is a difference between being SPIRITUAL and being RELIGIOUS.
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:11 AM
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An atheist is a person who does not believe in a particular deity. A theist is one who believes in a god or gods. I do not understand how that comes into play here. Despite the fact that you may call yourself spiritual, you cannot change the fact that you do not believe in a god. You may be spiritual, you may be religious, but to what end?
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Old 07-31-2010, 12:11 AM
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Karma is the main philosophy of Hinduism and not of Buddhism.

The main philosophy of Buddhism is Karuna i.e.compassion
like Ahimsa(Non-violence) is for Jainism.

It is not correct to say that Buddhism and Jainism is atheist,they believe in supreme god known as OM/Paramatmana/Parabharm
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