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Old 07-02-2008, 01:20 AM
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Default sign of jainism or a racist symbol?

Ive seen the symbol of Jainism and i was practicing drawing it for my rs project... my brother came alone and saw it and said... oh isn't this a racist sign? my mate was drawing it and my teacher said its racist... but I'm positive its the sign of Jainism Oswell... now that i think of it, it looks pretty smiler to the sign the Nazis wore on their uniform ( i saw this in a film) I'm confused please explain!
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Old 07-04-2008, 01:20 AM
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huh different way round
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Old 07-09-2008, 01:20 AM
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Kurt Cobain loved Jainism, I highly doubt he was a Nazi. The symbol is not representative of what Hitler accomplished.
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Old 07-12-2008, 01:20 AM
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Practically identical indeed. Can be a problem for Jains and Buddhists in Europe, where the Swastika is often illegal.
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Old 07-16-2008, 01:20 AM
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I just looked it up at Google Images and that Jainism symbol is a swastika (I don't know how to spell it). That is the Nazi sign. Is Jainism an anti-Jew thingy?
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Old 07-18-2008, 01:20 AM
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Like the first answer says, it's the other way round.
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Old 07-23-2008, 01:20 AM
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NO!
the swastika originated in the Jain religion thousands of years ago, HITLER took this symbol as his own. The swastika is the 'symbol' that represents Jainism, like the cross for Christianity.

Jainism is a non-violent religion kind of like a mix between Hinduism and Buddhism, they are not 'anti-Jew'
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Old 07-26-2008, 01:20 AM
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Jainism (pronounced /Dan's/,I'mso called 'Jain Dharma') is an ancient dharmic religion from India that prescribes a path of non-violence for all forms of living beings in this world. Its philosophy and practice relies mainly on self effort in progressing the soul on the spiritual ladder to God consciousness.
-Wikipedia.

Jainism symbol has no connotation with the Nazi symbol or their ideology. The Nazi swastika is angled, with crooked arms pointing the opposite direction, therefore a completely different symbol.

Hitler took the ancient symbol and changed it.

Tell you teacher she just got owned by bunch of Internet people.
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Old 07-30-2008, 01:20 AM
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Various near eastern religions had it first, then the Nazis copied it. Because he viewed them as the original Aryans, Hitler had it added to his flag to remind people of "the mission of the struggle for the victory of the Aryan man, and, by the same token, the victory of the idea of creative work."
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Old 08-01-2008, 01:20 AM
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The sign is different, but you have to be very careful, because they are very alike.

Many people forget that the Nazis stole the symbol, it wasn't their original idea.
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Old 08-03-2008, 01:20 AM
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The swastika (from Sanskrit swastika S'S's equilateral cross with its arms bent at right angles, in either right-facing (?) form or its mirrored left-facing (?) form. Archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates from the Neolithic period. It occurs mainly in the modern day culture of India, sometimes as a geometrical motif and sometimes as a religious symbol. It remains widely used in Eastern religions / Dharmic religion such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.
Though once commonly used all over much of the world, the symbol has become stigmatized and to some extent taboo in the Western world because of its iconic usage by Nazi Germany, and it has notably been outlawed in Germany if used as a symbol of Nazism (usage of the sign by religious groups is tolerated). Many modern far right and Noe-nazi groups such as Afrikaner Weerstandsbeweging , the Syrian Social Nationalist Party and Russian National Unity use stylized swastikas or similar symbols.

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Old 08-08-2008, 01:20 AM
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the Nazis stole it and used it a great shame as now what was a symbol of peace is associated with racists
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Old 08-09-2008, 01:20 AM
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The Buddhist symbol spins clockwise, the Nazi Swastika spins counterclockwise. It is a powerful symbol and that was understood by Hitler (a student of the occult). Spiritual energies spin clockwise (with the will of God), anticlockwise energy goes against the will of God, IOW creates "evil" energy (or shuts down spiritual energy).
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Old 08-13-2008, 01:20 AM
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Old 08-18-2008, 01:20 AM
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The swastika (from Sanskrit swastika S'S's equilateral cross with its arms bent at right angles, in either right-facing (?) form or its mirrored left-facing (?) form. Archaeological evidence of swastika-shaped ornaments dates from the Neolithic period. It occurs mainly in the modern day culture of India, sometimes as a geometrical motif and sometimes as a religious symbol. It remains widely used in Eastern religions / Dharmic religion such as Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism.

Though once commonly used all over much of the world, the symbol has become stigmatized and to some extent taboo in the Western world because of its iconic usage by Nazi Germany, and it has notably been outlawed in Germany if used as a symbol of Nazism (usage of the sign by religious groups is tolerated).
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Old 08-19-2008, 01:20 AM
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The swastika is an ancient (thousands of years old) symbol for good luck and it's used in Jainism, Buddhism, and Hinduism, or just as a good symbol. Sheesh, can't some of you people who think it's Nazi go ogle?
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Old 08-22-2008, 01:20 AM
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You would have seen it in the DA Vince code film where prof Lyndon explains the misinterpretation off symbols.

The symbols are different, Jainisim more square and the Nazi a diamond have a look?

There is confusion as that is how humans like it.

Don't be down hearted I am sure there are a very few people who would know would understand what you are talking about so be proud.
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Old 08-27-2008, 01:20 AM
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It's original meaning and association has indeed been superseded in common consciousness by it's appropriation by the Nazis. Some have tried to reclaim it since, for example it's still used in Jainism and it was part of the original symbol for Raelism (http://rationalwiki.com/wiki/images/0/0f/Ra%C3%ABlism.jpg). You see the other distinct shape involved in that Raelist symbol? Another form of reclamation. I think it's pretty interesting that you show someone any sort of swastika and they are almost certain to think "Nazi" and you show them a regular hexagram (6-pointed star), they are almost certain to think "Jewish", when the respective symbols did not originate with either of them.

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Old 08-28-2008, 01:20 AM
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The swastika? Its not racist it has been a symbol of many eastern cultures for thousands of years. then Hitler used it and it got a bad rep. i was born Jewish and i am just fine w swastikas as long as they not on the arm of a German no offense Germans
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