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Old 05-22-2010, 04:58 PM
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Default Jainism & Buddhism any connection?

Its well known fact that Jainism & Buddhism are world class non-violence religions who suffered badly & whose history was manipulated by Vedic - Hindus which is known worldwide in many documentary researches. But it would be great to learn connection between these two lovely religions.
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Old 05-23-2010, 04:58 PM
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Hinduism never manipulated Jainism or Buddism as you believe. Jainism and Buddism are Vedic religions by the way. Hinduism is a super set of other medic religions.

The word non-violence you have used is not the right word to equate with the Sanskrit word Ahimsa. More apt word would be Non-injury. Non violence became popular after Gandijis Ahimsa path.

Non Injury is entirely different from non violence and also its the base of Hinduism. "Ahimsa Paramo dharma"
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Old 05-24-2010, 04:58 PM
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Other than the fact that they both arose at roughly the same time as "protestant" forms of Hinduism, and the fact that their monks followed roughly the same lifestyles, I don't think there's much connection.

But I have to say that there's much romanticizing of Buddhism in the West. It was not as peace loving religion as people would like to think. From Emperor Asoka to Shaolin monks and Japanese samurais, there were quite a bit of Buddhists who engaged willingly in warfare.
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Old 05-28-2010, 04:58 PM
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In Indian and much of Asian culture too, philosophy and religion are traditionally not separate things as in the Western world. These two religions are, as far as I know, both of Indian origin.
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Old 05-31-2010, 04:58 PM
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Shraman culture preceded Vedic religion and culture in India & termed shaman culture to culture by 24 Jain thanksnarcsds/ jinas/ arhats . Current Cycles Shraman Culture was Started by Lord Rishabdev/ Lord Adnath first tirthankar. Jainism is word coined by Britishers to Shraman Culture.

wrongly promoted by Vedic-Hindus that Jainism & buddhism are branches of Vedic culture whereby senario is something else.

Jainism was founded by Lord Rishabdev (first Tirthankar) & 24th was Lord Mahavir.

Lord Mahavir (24th Tirthankar) was the senior contemporary of Gautama Buddha, the founder of Buddhism. In Buddhist books Lord Mahavir is always described as nigantha Nataputta (Nirgrantha Jnatrputra), i.e., the naked ascetic of the Jnatr clan. Further, in the Buddhist literature Jainism is referred to as an ancient religion. There are ample references in Buddhist books to the Jain naked ascetics, to the worship of Arhats in Jain chaityas or temples and to the chaturyama dharma ( i.e. fourfold religion) of 23rd Tirthankar Parsvanath.

Moreover, the Buddhist literature refers to the Jain tradition of Tirthankars and specifically mentions the names of Jain Tirthankars like Rishabhdev, Padmaprabh, Chandraprabh, Puspdant, Vimalnath, Dharmanath and Neminath. The Buddhist book Manorathapurani, mentions the names of many lay men and women as followers of the Parsvanath (23rd jain tirthankar )tradition and among them is the name of Vappa, the uncle of Gautama Buddha. In fact it is mentioned in the Buddhist literature that Gautama Buddha himself practiced penance according to the Jain way before he propounded his new religion.

Aryans were too influenced by 23rd tirthankar parswanathji . Lord Mahavir & Lord Gautam Buddha were both heirs to lord parshwanathjis legacy. During The time of Lord Mahavira & Lord Buddha , there were many shraman monks who belonged an order, samgha, founded by Lord parshwanathji . They eventually joined Lord Mahavirs order or Lord Buddhas order.

In Sri Lanka also before the advent of Buddhist religion, Jain religion was well entrenched. This has been substantially proved from old Buddhist literature. The Buddhist literature in Shri Lanka, ?Mahavansh and the ancient text ?Deepvansh? mention that Jainism existed during the reign of the early 21 kings in Lanka (10 B.C. to 3 A.D), but was later destroyed by king Vattagamini.
Great Emperor Chandra Gupta Maurya was a jain who later became a Jain monk; his son Ashoka became a Buddhist after war with kalinga and Ashoka's grandson Emperor Samprati was a dedicated Jain & biggest chakravarti than Ashoka & hence poorly highlighted in History. King Ashoka Promoted Buddhism where Jainism already existed from time of its forefathers. Today where buddhism existed , Jainism too once existed. One can make out same by seeing a buddhist temple in China called Mahavir Hall.


Jainism & Buddhism enjoyed cordial relations in South-India but badly suffered from approx. 6th century when shaiv & vaishnav fanatics were very agressive & Major Jain & Buddhist scripts were burnt during that time as shared by few scholars & buddhism was wiped out & Jains who didnt agreed to convert were forcefully made dalits.


"The available history of Bharata suffers from three defects. Firstly, they present a biased view - the court historians and the subject historians are unreliable. Secondly, almost all the historians neglected the pre Aryan history of Bharata. Three foreign conquests, the Aryan, the Turko Afghan and the British changed the course of history and the texture of the culture and civilization of Bharata. The history and texture of the culture & civilization of the Pre-Aryan Bharata is conveniently forgotten. Thirdly, the Indian historians are generally undialectical and unchronological in writing the history of Bharata specially its cultural history. The reason lies in the failure of the Bharatiya historians in taking full and complete view of the gradual progress of Bhratiya life through the ages. The Bhratiya historians give undue weightage to the Vedic and Puranic sources - they by and large failed to present the blanced view of the Bharatiya history with the critical and comparitive use of these sources. Just for this reason, they have failed to rightly appreciate the foreign sources and specially the Greek sources.(R. K. Jain from the ?Preface of ancient India as described by Magesthenes?)

Historian Romila Thapar has given an interview on the history of Karnataka to Hindustan Times reporter, Amit Sen Gupta for the article "Making up History" that "we are now finding evidence of shaivite attacks on Jain temples, the destruction of temple, the removal of idols, the reimplanting of shaivete images in their place, this is a regular occurrence-- --even temples were destroyed or Jain monuments were destroyed by Hindus, particularly by shaivties."

Todays Famous & other million ancient Vedic Shrines were once full-fledged Jain Shrines or Buddhist shrines proved archeologically . Its recorded history that Adi-shankracharya Killed 8000 jain monks .
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Old 06-05-2010, 04:58 PM
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budha and bhagvanmahavir lived in same times.in fact once they stayed nearby but never met.
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