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Old 07-07-2008, 05:25 PM
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Default Can I convert to Jainism?

I am a white American male and I have been searching for a religion for about three years now. I have had a hard time finding my faith. I started with Buddhism. After a year I fell away from it. Then I picked up Hinduism. After about six months I fell from that too. But, I have found Jainism now and feel a real connection with it. I really like it and love bathing myself in its philosophy. It seems to be the religion for me. And, yes Im ready to take up their austere practices. But, one thing concerns me. Wherever I look to find if they accept converts, I don't get a definite answer. When I do get a definite answer I don't get any info to back it up. So if you could, please give me an answer to whether or not I can convert to Jainism.
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Old 07-08-2008, 05:25 PM
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You can convert to whatever you want, doesn't mean the religion is speaking truth though mind you. In fact most religions are lies anyways. Good luck I guess.
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Old 07-11-2008, 05:25 PM
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Why can't you is my question.
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Old 07-13-2008, 05:25 PM
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Ask in the Lord God! If you wish to learn His Truth, this is the only way.
After 62 years of ingraining religious practices and words, I asked in Him to show me, and He did.

Peace and Blessings
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Old 07-16-2008, 05:25 PM
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1- Why can't the Christian god forgive people without having to kill an innocent man?
2-If Jesus committed suicide doesn't that make him sinful and not sinless?
3-Why didn't the Christian god tell the previous prophets about the trinity?
4-Why is the Christian god Sexist? (He had a son, not a daughter).
5-Why is the Christian god Racist? (His son is white, not black or Chinese).
6-Was Jesus born with original sin?
If yes then he's isn't sinless.
If no then why not, I thought he was man?
7-Why don't Christians get circumcised like Jesus?
8-Where does Jesus say "I am god" or "Worship me"?
9-If god is called YHWH then why didn't Jesus call himself YHWH?
10-Why does the bible says to kill non-virgins on their wedding night? (Deuteronomy 22:20-21).


The true religion would be the one that came from God. I converted to Islam a few years ago. I became a Muslim when I realized these things.

These are scientific proofs. Please go to the link below and take a look


http://www.islamreligion.com/category/34/


and this link also


http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/219/


Go to the link below. This here is why some people become atheists


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2s14T6x5AM&feature=related



God sent many messengers to Adam's(pub) descendants to let us know that we should worship none but God alone and to submit to God but people kept changing their message.

Submission to God is the same religion that Abraham(pub), Moses(pub), Jesus(pub), Muhammad(pub) and all the other prophets preached. The word Islam in Arabic means submission to God and that is what all the prophets did.


[Quran 3:67] Abraham was not a Jew or a Christian. He was an upright person who had submitted himself to the will of God. Abraham was not a pagan.


The Holy Quran says this about the Trinity

[4:171] O people of the scripture, do not transgress the limits of your religion, and do not say about GOD except the truth. The Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, was a messenger of GOD, and His word that He had sent to Mary, and a revelation from Him. Therefore, you shall believe in GOD and His messengers. You shall not say, "Trinity." You shall refrain from this for your own good. GOD is only one god. Be He glorified; He is much too glorious to have a son. To Him belongs everything in the heavens and everything on earth. GOD suffices as Lord and Master.

[5:73] Pagans indeed are those who say that GOD is a third of a trinity. There is no god except the one god. Unless they refrain from saying this, those who disbelieve among them will incur a painful retribution.

[5:116] GOD will say, "O Jesus, son of Mary, did you say to the people, `Make me and my mother idols beside GOD?' " He will say, "Be You glorified. I could not utter what was not right. Had I said it, You already would have known it. You know my thoughts, and I do not know Your thoughts. You know all the secrets.

So if Christians believe in the trinity, they are polytheistic.

According to the Qur'an, Jesus(pbuh) was born miraculously by the will of God without a father. His mother is regarded as a chaste and virtuous woman and is a highly respected figure in Islam. The Qur'an states that Jesus was the result of a virgin birth. If God says it will happen, it will. For Muslims Mary is a symbol of submission to God and piety.


Moses, Abraham, and Jesus(Peace be upon them all) brought Islam but people changed it and forgot it. The Bible was the word of God until people changed it. Today there are more than a thousand different Bibles. Why do you think there are so many different versions of it?
The Quran is in it's Original form. It has never been changed.

The word Islam in Arabic means submission to the will of God and thats what Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad(Peace be upon them all) did. God sent them to let the world know that they should worship none but God himself.

No where in the Bible does Jesus say that he's God and to worship him but thats what Christians do. When Jesus(pbuh) was praying, was he praying to himself?

But heres what Jesus(pbuh) did say in the Bible.

Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a MAN approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know: (KJV Bible Acts 2:22)


"..Jesus saith,' I Thirst'. in John 19:28



John tells us that Jesus cannot do anything by his own when he quotes Jesus as saying: ?By myself I can do nothing...? (John 5:30).

And here are some facts. Jesus(pbuh) needed to eat food, he got thirsty and had to drink, he got sad, he got angry, and he got hurt. These are not the qualities of God.

Jesus(pbuh) healed sick people and brought people back to life with God's permission. Jesus(pbuh) even said

?By myself I can do nothing...? (John 5:30).


Quran [3:55] Thus, GOD said, "O Jesus, I am terminating your life, raising you to Me, and ridding you of the disbelievers. I will exalt those who follow you above those who disbelieve, till the Day of Resurrection. Then to Me is the ultimate destiny of all of you, then I will judge among you regarding your disputes.

Heres a verse from the Bible about Original sin

?The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.? (Deuteronomy 24:16)

So why do Christians believe everyone is born with sin when their own Bible says that evryone one is responsible for their sins.

(Quran 6:164) ??No person earns any (sin) except against himself (only), and no bearer of burdens shall bear the burden of another??

Please go to this link to learn more about this


http://www.islamreligion.com/articles/13/


Go to the link below and watch this debate between the Muslim scholar Sheikh Ahmad Deedat and the Christian reverend Eric Bock debate on the topic "is Jesus God?" You will see that no where in the Bible does Jesus(pbuh) say that he is God. In fact the word trinity is not even in the Bible. It doesn't say that anywhere in any version of the Bible. Please watch by going to this link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLDkf8ygYpk


Please watch this video by going to the link below and Shiekh Khalid Yasin explains that Abraham(pbuh), Moses(pbuh), and Jesus(pbuh) were all Muslims. Please go to the link below and watch.


http://www.islamreligion.com/videos/2157/


Understand that the word Muslim means one who submits his/her will to God

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Go to this link below and watch this debate with the Muslim scholar Ahmad Deedat proving to everyone that Jesus(pbuh) said in the Bible that prophet Muhammad(pbuh) will come.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hhazm0UdlTc

Skip Estes who is now Yusuf Estes was a Christian minister in the U.S. before he converted to Islam. He became a Muslim when he tried to convert someone else to Christianity. He is known worldwide for his lectures. Go to the link below to watch him tell his story of why he became a Muslim. It's very interesting.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNaXdrTHdu8

your gonna have to click on part 2 when part 1 is over and so on.


Our motto is "There is none worthy of worship except God"

Quran [2:112] Indeed, those who submit themselves absolutely to GOD alone,
while leading a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their
Lord; they have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve.


Islam is not a name. Islam means Submission to God alone. Muslim is an Arabic word that refers to the person who Submits to God alone. Submission involves an active daily process of remembering and worshiping God alone.


Go to the link below to learn more. It's a great website for both Muslims and non Muslims


http://www.islamreligion.com/

May the peace and blessings of God be upon you.





TO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IGNORANT AND UNEDUCATED

First country to recgonize the U.S.A after independence was Morocco, a Muslim country. Islam forbids violence. All this conflict that you see on the news is not because of their religion, it's because some individuals want their own political causes. The State of Israel for example is occupied Palestineian territory. People do whatever it takes to kick out occupiers from their country so they can make the political system the way they want it to be. Even the Catholic IRA does terrorist attacks against the U.K. because the UK occupied northern Ireland.



Women and men are equal in Islam. Look at the treatment of women here in USA. A women is raped every 3 minutes in USA according to the statistics. That is only the data that was reported wonder how many go unreported.

How many of us American stop and give the right of the way to women which is a common thing (at least in Pakistan where I have been). People stop their activity (game or what have you) to let women pass.

Good and bad are in every society. There are people who follow Islamic teaching and treat their women like a pearl and there are people who don't follow Islamic teach and treat their women like crap.



Beating of women is also very common in many other societies ... lets face the fact ... Islam gives women more right then any other religion and I can prove that if someone needs me to.

Pick up the old testament and tell me if I am lying but women who are on their period are to be considered un-holy and the things they touch become un-holy as well!!

No such concept in Islam.

I think people really need to start learning more about the teaching of Islam and stop judging it by the act of people who may not be following what they should.
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Old 07-18-2008, 05:25 PM
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I'll put my thoughts
conversion doesn't mean a materialistic process but it's change of mind, change of view and change of thinking process. if you accept Christian but follow Muslim's ideology then you don't need to follow conversion process. after all you are getting peace of mind. and that's the most important. you better "study" every religion, "examine" it, and think "logically" on each part of it. take best of all philosophies. all the best.
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