Where in the Torah does it say that Christian ("Messianic") Jews are part of the Cove

All I can find is where it says believing in Jesus is a mortal sin for Jews.

(I'm agnostic, so I don't claim preference either way.)
"When Ephraim spoke with trembling, he became exalted in Israel; but when he became guilty through Baal, he died" (Hosea 13:1)

Jesus was also considered a false God. I could post quotations that verify this, but I don't care to debate with you.
"And I am the Lord your God from the land of Egypt, and gods beside Me you should not know, and there is no savior but Me" (Hosea 13:4).
Tuberoot, is your defensive response due to the fact that you have nothing to back up your view? This is not an answer to my question.

maybe...

i think your looking for an apple in a barrel of oranges

the Torah says believing in Jesus is a mortal sin? I've read Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy a few times and don't recall seeing that bit.

anyway, what caught my attention was that I think Christian Jews are just called Christians. Messianic Jews are something else. I can't explain the distinction, but someone will probably correct you.

Didn't the prophets talk about the coming of Christ?

It doesn't matter since it's a work of fiction.

either they belong to Judaism or Christianity. they should not be claiming both just for the heck of gaining converts.

The Torah doesn't say believing in Jesus is a sin. Do you know what the Torah is?

The Torah refers to the first five books of the Old Testament, written by Moses. There are no references to Jesus during this time. Possibly allegorical, but no direct connections to the Messiah and sin.

That shows what you know. You said Jesus, then you brought up a quote about Baal.

hm mm. Is that the best you've got?


Now you did worse. You asked for Torah. And then you quoted one of the prophets.

You don't know much, do you?

**Nowhere** in the Torah does it say this. In fact, it says the opposite: "Hear O Israel, Adonai is our G-d, Adonai is One." Not three, but one. Period. "Messianic Jews" are apostates. Period.

The Torah (Old Testament, aka Moses and the Prophets) ended some 400 years prior to the birth of Jesus. Both Moses and the Prophets in scripture all point to Messiah Jesus.
Messianic Jews are still part of the covenant because they are the seed of Abraham. It's as simple as that. Jews don't believe in "mortal" or "venial" sins, you ex-Catholic.

The Covenant children are the seed of Abraham ,Isaac and Jacob,
Jesus is the seed and all who believe in Him are covenant children; the covenant made to Abraham

The Torah, written by Moses, are the first 5 books of the bible.
And there is not one word saying belief in Jesus is a sin.

In fact those that do believe are spiritual Jews, such as it says in the NT.
So the prophecy of Abraham having descendants innumerableLes true...God gave him that promise.
Messianic Jews are those that accept Christ first coming as his new kingdom to the world and saving them as believers.

Nowhere, but since it has been pointed out that you are including the prophets with the Torah, there are passages that indicate that gentiles will become part of the Covenant.

Isaiah 56:6 And the foreigners who join themselves to HaShem to serve Him and to love the Name of HaShem to become servants unto Him, all who guard the Sabbath against desecration, and grasp My covenant tightly- 7 I will bring them to My holy mountain, and I will gladden them in My house of prayer; their elevation offerings and their feast offerings will find favor on My Altar, for My House will be called a house of prayer for all peoples.

This seems to say that the gentiles will become converts to Judaism, not the other way around as Christianity teaches.

You won't find support for any divine messiah or anthropomorphizing of God into a man impregnating women in any pert of the Torah or tench. At lea ts, not if you don't misinterpret and mistranslated things to force it into saying that!

As for pointing to the belief in someone performing miracles etc and then telling you to not obey the Torah being a mortal sin:

Devarim (Deuteronomy) Chapter 13
1. Everything I command you that you shall be careful to do it. You shall neither add to it, nor subtract from it.
2. If there will arise among you a prophet, or a dreamer of a dream, and he gives you a sign or a wonder,
3. and the sign or the wonder of which he spoke to you happens, [and he] says, "Let us go after other gods which you have not known, and let us worship them,"
4. you shall not heed the words of that prophet, or that dreamer of a dream; for the Lord, your God, is testing you, to know whether you really love the Lord, your God, with all your heart and with all your soul.
5. You shall follow the Lord, your God, fear Him, keep His commandments, heed His voice, worship Him, and cleave to Him.