where does it say in the Q'uran that the Bible and Torah have been altered?
Anybody know of the exact verse? Thanks
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And remember We gave Moses the Scripture and the Criterion (Between right and wrong): There was a chance for you to be guided aright.
2:59 But the transgressors changed the word from that which had been given them; so We sent on the transgressors a plague from heaven, for that they infringed (Our command) repeatedly.
And [mention, O Muhammad], when Allah took a covenant from those who were given the Scripture, [saying], "You must make it clear to the people and not conceal it." But they threw it away behind their backs and exchanged it for a small price. And wretched is that which they purchased.
3:187
those who were given a covenant = children of Abraham specifically the Jews and Christians
But those who wronged changed [those words] to a statement other than that which had been said to them, so We sent down upon those who wronged a punishment from the sky because they were defiantly disobeying.
2:59
and the preceding verses before that one talk about Bani ISrael and the factors Allah granted upon them, before mentioning how some of them changed the word
Hmm, that doesn't sound promising! I'd like to research that... But I know that a lot of the bible has been taken out and altered, I mean, the book has been translated thousands of times, and half the books were taken out because they included bits that we aren't meant to hear about or something or rather... Its a great book, just, worrying!
Well in my opinion, the Quran darkens counsel with words without knowledge, and this is why;
Here are some inconsistencies within the Islamic view regarding the Bible.
The Quran says that the Bible is the "Word of God".
Surah 5.46 Pickthal:
And We caused Jesus, son of Mary, to follow in their footsteps, confirming that which was (revealed) before him in the Torah, and We bestowed on him the Gospel wherein is guidance and a light, confirming that which was (revealed) before it in the Torah - a guidance and an admonition unto those who ward off (evil).
Muslims also insist that Gods Word cannot be altered or changed.. But if both these statements are correct then it follows that the Bible has not been changed or corrupted, either before or since Mohammads time. However, Islamic teaching insists that the Bible has been corrupted. Thus the contradiction.
Also, it is unreasonable to suppose that the Jews and Christians would conspire together to change the old testament.
For the Jews feelings towards the Christians had always been hostile. Why would 2 hostile parties(Jews and Christians) who shared a common old testament, conspire to change it to support the views of a common enemy, the Muslims? It does not make any sense.
Furthermore, at the supposed time of the textual changes, Jews and Christians were spread all over the world, making the supposed collaboration to corrupt the text impossible. And the number of copies of the old testament in circulation were too numerous to guarantee that the changes would be uniform.
And, there is no mention of any such changes by former Jews or Christians of the time who became Muslims.....something that they surely would have reported if it were true.
More furthermore, Muslim rejection of the New Testament is contrary to the overwhelming manuscript evidence. All the Gospels are preserved in the Chester Beatty Papyri, dated about AD 250,(before Muhammed's time).
And the vast majority of the New Testament exists in the Vaticanus Manuscript B that dates from about 325-350AD. In addition, there are nearly 5,700 other manuscripts of the New Testament dating from the 2ND century AD to the 15Th century(hundreds of which are from before the time of Mohammad), not to mention the "Dead Sea Scrolls", that confirm the same substantial text of the old and whole new testament existing in Mohammads day.
To sum it all up, Islam and the Quran diametrically contradict many parts(and doctrines) of the Bible that the Quran itself says is the Word of God.
Muslims try and explain this away by saying that the Bible has been corrupted. But it is clearly obvious why that can't be true
where does it say in the Q'uran that the Bible and Torah have been altered?
