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Old 07-08-2010, 01:21 AM
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Default where can i start learning the jewish holy book Talmud ?

are there any on line sites that will help me learn the Talmud and other Jewish laws?
Poos P: that was pretty Lenighttiring but I read them all do you mind if I copy your work and keep it for future reading?
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Old 07-11-2010, 01:21 AM
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The sites listed here might help you study.
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:21 AM
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OK, well firstly, there are two Talmuds, and each one is comprised of a series of big, big volumes.....!

The Talmud is not actually 'holy', I think you might mean the Torah?

I would recommend starting with these websites: great for offering an overview of Jewish beliefs and history:

http://www.whatjewsbelieve.org/
http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/
http://www.ajewwithaview.com
http://www.askmoses.com

The Talmud is not the most accessible of things to study and even Jewish scholars can find it demanding. To start with, though, there are a few reputable sites that offer pieces of text from the Talmud, I'll come back with a link for you in a minute

HERE YOU ARE: http://www.angelfire.com/mt/talmud/



THE POSTER BELOW:

- *sigh*

What is it with some of you that you persist in visiting Noe Nazi websites that keep on giving you the same old FAKED 'quotes' from the 'Talmud'???

Is it that you think if you can just keep saying it, people will believe you? Well, you're wrong. Only morons would believe that any Jewish text has these horrendous things in them!

Judaism teaches that ALL humans are EQUAL.
We are ALL EQUALLY G-D's children.


edit

The moron below reveals his ignorance by referring to a Jew's 'personal version' of the Talmud.

No such thing.

No Jew has their 'own' Talmud!
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Old 07-16-2010, 01:21 AM
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The Jewish Talmud
If a Jew would actually let you read their personal version of a modern Talmud, you will find most of this information is not written there.
The Jews, will then say, ha ha, see our enemy just make up lies about the Talmud.
If you want to read the original filth/hate/perversion of the Talmud, you will have to get access to a Prue 1900..version..


Abhodah Zarah (22a) -- Do not associate with gentiles, they shed blood.
Iore Dea (153, 2). -- Must not associate with Christians, shed blood.
Abhodah Zarah (25b). -- Beware of Christians when walking abroad with them.
Orach Chaiim (20, 2). -- Christians disguise themselves to kill Jews.
Abhodah Zarah (15b) -- Suggest Christians have sex relations with animals.
Abhodah Zarah (22a) -- Suspect Christians of intercourse with animals.
Schabbath (145b) -- Christians unclean because they eat accordingly
Abhodah Zarah (22b) -- Christians unclean because they not at Mount Sinai.
Iore Dea (198, 48). -- Clean female Jews contaminated meeting Christians.
Kerithuth (6b p. 78) -- Jews called men, Christians not called men.
Makkoth (7b) -- Innocent of murder if intent was to kill Christian.
Orach Chaiim(225, 10) -- Christians and animals grouped for comparisons.
Midrasch Talpioth 225 -- Christians created to minister to Jews always.
Orach Chaiim 57, 6a -- Christians to be pitied more than sick pigs.
Zohar II (64b) -- Christian idolators likened to cows and asses.
Kethuboth (110b). -- Psalmist compares Christians to unclean beasts.
Sanhedrin (74b). Tos. -- Sexual intercourse of Christian like that of beast.
Kethuboth (3b) -- The seed of Christian is valued as seed of beast.
Kidduschim (68a) -- Christians like the people of an ass.
Eben Haezar (44,8) -- Marriages between Christian and Jews null.
Zohar (II, 64b) -- Christian birth rate must be diminished materially.
Zohar (I, 28b) -- Christian idolators children of Eve's serpent.
Zohar (I, 131a) -- Idolatrous people (Christians) befoul the world.
Emek Haschanach(17a) -- Non-Jews' souls come from death and death's shadow.
Zohar (I, 46b, 47a) -- Souls of gentiles have unclean divine origins.
Rosch Haschanach(17a) -- Non-Jews souls go down to hell.
Iore Dea (337, 1). -- Replace dead Christians like lost cow or ass.
Iebhammoth (61a) -- Jews called men, but not Christians called men.
Abhodah Zarah (14b) T -- Forbidden to sell religious works to Christians
Abhodah Zarah (78) -- Christian churches are places of idolatry.
Iore Dea (142, 10) -- Must keep far away physically from churches.
Iore Dea (142, 15) -- Must not listen to church music or look at idols
Iore Dea (143, 1) -- Must not rebuild homes destroyed near churches.
Hilkoth Abh. Zar (10b) -- Jews must not resell broken chalices to Christians.
Chullin (91b) -- Jews possess dignity even an angel cannot share.
Sanhedrin, 58b -- To strike Israelite like slapping face of God.
Chagigah, 15b -- A Jew considered good in spite of sins he commits.
Gittin (62a) -- Jew stay away from Christian homes on holidays.
Choschen Ham. (26,1) -- Jew must not sue before a Christian judge or laws.
Choschen Ham (34,19) -- Christian or servant cannot become witnesses.
Iore Dea (112, 1). -- Avoid eating with Christians, breeds familiarity.
Abhodah Zarah (35b) -- Do not drink milk from a cow milked by Christian.
Iore dea (178, 1) -- Never imitate customs of Christians, even hair-comb.
Abhodah Zarah (72b) -- Wine touched by Christians must be thrown away.
Iore Dea (120, 1) -- Bought-dishes from Christians must be thrown away.
Abhodah Zarah (2a) -- For three days before Christian festivals, avoid all.
Abhodah Zarah (78c) -- Festivals of followers of Jesus regarded as idolatry.
Iore Dea (139, 1) -- Avoid things used by Christians in their worship.
Abhodah Zarah (14b) -- Forbidden to sell Christians articles for worship.
Iore Dea (151,1) H. -- Do not sell water to Christians articles for baptisms.
Abhodah Zarah (2a, 1) -- Do not trade with Christians on their feast days.
Abhodah Zarah (1,2) -- Now permitted to trade with Christians on such days.
Abhodah Zarah (2aT) -- Trade with Christians because they have money to pay.
Iore Dea (148, 5) -- If Christian is not devout, may send him gifts.
Hilkoth Akum (IX,2) -- Send gifts to Christians only if they are irreligious.
Iore Dea (81,7 Ha) -- Christian wet-nurses to be avoided because dangerous.
Iore Dea (153, 1 H) -- Christian nurse will lead children to heresy.
Iore Dea (155,1). -- Avoid Christian doctors not well known to neighbors.
Peaschim (25a) -- Avoid medical help from idolators, Christians meant.
Iore Dea (156,1) -- Avoid Christian barbers unless escorted by Jews.
Abhodah Zarah (26a). -- Avoid Christian midwives as dangerous when alone.
Zohar (1,25b) -- Those who do good to Christians never rise when dead.
Hilkoth Akum (X,6) -- Help needy Christians if it will promote peace.
Iore Dea (148, 12H) -- Hide hatred for Christians at their celebrations.
Abhodah Zarah (20a) -- Never praise Christians lest it be believed true.
Iore Dea (151,14) -- Not allowed to praise Christians to add to glory.
Hilkoth Akum (V, 12) -- Quote Scriptures to forbid mention of Christian god.
Iore Dea (146, 15) -- Refer to Christian religious articles with contempt.
Iore Dea (147,5) -- Deride Christian religious articles without wishes.
Hilkoth Akum (X,5) -- No gifts to Christians, gifts to converts.
Iore Dea (151,11) -- Gifts forbidden to Christians, encourages friendship.
Iore Dea (335,43) -- Exile for that Jew who sells farm to Christian.
Iore Dea (154,2) -- Forbidden to teach a trade to a Christian
Babha Bathra (54b) -- Christian property belongs to first person claiming.
Choschen Ham(183,7) -- Keep what Christian overpays in error.
Choschen Ham(226,1) -- Jew may keep lost property of Christian found by Jew.
Babha Kama (113b) -- It is permitted to deceive Christians.
Choschen Ham(183,7) -- Jews must divide what they overcharge Christians.
Choschen Ham(156,5) -- Jews must not take Christian customers from Jews.
Iore Dea (157,2) H -- May deceive Christians that believe Christian tenets.
Abhodah Zarah (54a) --Usury may be practiced upon Christians or apostates.
Iore Dea (159,1) -- Usury permitted now for any reason to Christians.
Babha Kama (113a) -- Jew may lie and perjure to condemn a Christian.
Babha Kama (113b) -- Name of God not profaned when lying to Christians.
Kallah (1b, p.18) -- Jew may perjure himself with a clear conscience.
Schabbouth Hag. (6d). -- Jews may swear falsely by use of subterfuge wording.
Zohar (1,160a). -- Jews must always try to deceive Christians.
Iore Dea (158,1) -- Do not cure Christians unless it makes enemies.
Orach Cahiim (330,2) -- Do not assist Christian's childbirth on Saturday.
Choschen Ham.(425,5) -- Unless believes in Torah do not prevent his death.
Iore Dea (158,1) -- Christians not enemies must not be saved either.
Hilkkoth Akum (X,1) -- Do not save Christians in danger of death.
Choschen Ham(386,10) -- A spy may be killed even before he confesses.
Abhodah Zorah (26b) -- Apostates to be thrown into well, not rescued.
Choschen Ham(388,15) -- Kill those who give Israelites' money to Christians
Sanhedrin (59a) -- `Prying into Jews' "Law" to get death penalty
Hilkhoth Akum(X,2) -- Baptized Jews are to be put to death
Iore Dea(158,2)Hag. -- Kill renegades who turn to Christian rituals.
Choschen Ham(425,5) -- Those who do not believe in Torah are to be killed.
Hilkhoth tesch.III,8 -- Christians and others deny the "Law" of the Torah.
Zohar (I,25a) -- Christians are to be destroyed as idolators.
Zohar (II,19a) -- Captivity of Jews end when Christian princes die.
Zohar (I,219b) -- Princes of Christians are idolators, must die.
Obadiam -- When Rome is destroyed, Israel will be redeemed.
Abhodah Zarah(26b) T. -- "Even the best of the Goim should be killed."
Sepher Or Israel 177b -- If Jew kills Christian commits no sin.
Ialkut Simoni (245c) -- Shedding blood of impious offers sacrifice to God.
Zohar (II, 43a) -- Extermination of Christians necessary sacrifice.
Zohar (L,28b,39a) -- High place in heaven for those who kill idolators.
Hilkhoth Akum(X,1) -- Make no agreements and show no mercy to Christians
Hilkhoth Akum (X,1) -- Either turn them away from their idols or kill.
Hilkhoth Akum (X,7) -- Allow no idolators to remain where Jews are strong.
Choschen Ham(388,16) -- All contribute to expense of killing traitor.
Pesachim (49b) -- No need of prayers while beheading on Sabbath.
Schabbath (118a). -- Prayers to save from punishment of coming Messiah.
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Old 07-19-2010, 01:21 AM
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Paperback and Michael have given you good web sites. As you can see from another poster, he has found the nonsense web sites that mistranslated or outright lie about the Talmud. BTW - personal Talmud? Do I have a personal copy of the Constitution? Hell yeah! I've changed it and made up stuff! (sorry - I get ticked when people spout ignorant Cr@p. I even get annoyed when friends e-mail me with Internet spoof nonsense as fact! They generally check their facts first, now!)

One usually does not start with Talmud until they have a complete understanding of the Torah; it would be like starting in to an advanced law class without beginning with Law 101 and Constitutional Law.

Good luck on your studies. BTW - if you have a Kindle, e-mail me for details. I got the Talmud as an e-book! Great if you travel!
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Old 07-24-2010, 01:21 AM
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Poos P is wrong; he obviously found his info on an antisemitic website....
This site is reliable and truthful:
http://talmud.faithweb.com/
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Old 07-29-2010, 01:21 AM
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So listen, Deaths Skil: If you are serious about study, change your Finnavatar to something that is not disgusting@!

Then, when an idiot like Poos posts trash and filth, slap him down, don't say "Gee that was interesting can i keep it" .

At that point people MIGHT consider your request real. I don't.
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Old 08-01-2010, 01:21 AM
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Why do you want to keep lies??????

You asked about learning the real thing and then you want to read Nona's garbage?
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Old 08-05-2010, 01:21 AM
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answer: You've been given some good links. I'm sorry you don't realize why the emblem of the f*King Nazi SS stormtroopers is insulting, especially when asking questions to Jewish members here. I'm surprised you got respectful answers, actually.

Free country or not (you're on the Internet, there is no freedom of speech here, BTW), your avatar is insulting, especially to Jews and anyone who continue the fight against Nazis and Neo-Nazis.

I hope you can understand why and become sensitive.

If not, don't be surprised when you're labeled with the label you've already attached to yourself.

The symbol of the Nazis as your avatar. Do we take you at your label?

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We will if you actually believe that garbage spouted by Poo there. Or would you rather have accurate answers and not lies?
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Old 08-10-2010, 01:21 AM
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http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/talmud.htm
http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/bar/index.htm
http://www.sacred-texts.com/jud/pol/index.htm

The Talmud is not a holy book.


Peace be with you. Peace of mind, and especially peace of heart. I think you need it more than anyone around these parts.

I will not permit you to degrade my soul by making me hate you. Whoever you are, hiding behind the anonymity of the Internet, you are probably lonely, you are hurt. The hatred gives meaning and purpose to your life, and you want attention. Here I am, giving it to you. And whoever you are, I hope that you will find the missing piece in your life, so you can feel complete.

Over time, the hatred you bear will injure you and your happiness much more than it will injure the ones you hate.

Have a great day.
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