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Old 07-30-2010, 03:10 AM
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Default Is the 1900 TALMUD different from the Babylonian TALMUD?

I read on the Internet that the 1900 Talmud was 'cleaned up', so as not to be offensive to Christians and Gentiles. Is this true? Were really offensive verses from the 1900 Talmud that were removed?

I have researched this in the library and on line, avoiding any anti-Semitic sites. The historical information was that indeed the 1900 Talmud had terrible things to say about non-Jews.
I'm sorry.

It should have said "any Prue-1900 Talmud)
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Old 08-01-2010, 03:10 AM
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you have to be really thick to think that religious scriptures were not changed to meet man's needs

And yes, I'm talking about the Bible too
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Old 08-04-2010, 03:10 AM
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I've never heard of any such thing as a "1900 Talmud". The two Talmuds are the Babylon and the Jerusalem, The Jerusalem was closed by the Fifth Century and the Babylonian closed OT the dawn of the Seventh Century. I suspect that this "1900 Talmud" is nothing but the invention of antisemitic conspiracy theory mongers.
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Old 08-07-2010, 03:10 AM
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If you want to know what the Talmud really says go here:
http://talmud.faithweb.com
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Old 08-11-2010, 03:10 AM
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I'm familiar with two - the Bavli (Babylonian) Talmud and the Yerushalmi (Jerusalem - actually known as the Palestinian) Talmud.
Half of the Talmud was given by G-d in order to explain the Torah while the other half is a collection of commentary on the Torah (which are our laws). The reason for the Talmud (which was originally oral), is that while the Torah says to keep the Shabbat holy, it does not go into detail as to how to do so. The Talmud explains this - no lighting of fires, no work, etc; what is possible and what is not in order to fulfill this one law.

Now , bear in mind that the Law is quite complex. Many sites (and I'd love to see the ones that you used in your research, please) take the law out of context. Look at the 2ND Amendment to the US Constitution - it actually discusses the freedom to own guns as a part of a well-regulated militia, but our Supreme Court just recently upheld that one need not belong to a militia or other police-type group in order to own a gun legally.

Laws are complex and often misunderstood and taken out of context. It requires a lot of study and working with people who are intimately knowledgeable about the law to full understand it.


Edit - OK - to your additional detail - there is NO post-1900 Talmud. As another poster noted, the Bavli and Yershalmi were closed way before 1900. There MAY be additional books written on the Talmud - interpretations, etc., but the Talmud is unchanged.
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Old 08-15-2010, 03:10 AM
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Plushy Bear, gave a perfect answer.
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Old 08-19-2010, 03:10 AM
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Yes, it's different - it's the first version that wasn't "translated" by biased Christians with an agenda.

Show us these alleged non-antisemitic "references" of yours.

Besides, I've got terrible things to say about some non-Jews. And unlike the lies you people have spewed over centuries, it's true.
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Old 08-24-2010, 03:10 AM
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There is no such document as the "1900 Talmud" in Judaism. The Talmud now is the same as the Talmud when it was completed in the 6Th century- the only difference being that the Talmud today is usually published with various commentaries- the most common edition being the "Vilna edition" with the commentaries of Rashi and Tosfos on each page,on the right and left, various other commentaries in the footer (varies by tract ate), and then the other major commentaries in the appendices, with collections of other commentaries either being arranged by tract ate or author in other books.

Nothing has been removed from the Talmud, it is exactly the same as it has always been, and the Artscroll translation, organized as per the Vilna edition, has the full translation for every word of the Mishnah and Gomorrah! it doesn't translate the commentaries but summarises them in the notes due to space considerations (the set is already 73 volumes- if they fully translated the commentaries it would be hundreds of books!)
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