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Old 08-26-2010, 07:47 PM
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Default Is there any Jewish holy text that says 6,000,000 Jew must die before the state of is

why is it that also "6,000,000" Jews were facing extermination in Russia
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=F60A12FA3C551A738DDDA90A94DF405B 818EF1D3

wrong propaganda in the wrong time?
or is it mere coincidence?
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F60A12FA3C551A738DDDA90A94DF405B818EF1D3
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Old 08-31-2010, 07:47 PM
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Its always a lie, they have that 6 million number stuck in their head. A recent TV show accidentally exposed a holocaust photo as being a fraud, because the original photo is from a train wreck in Dresden Ohio in 1912, and they doctored it to add a bunch of bodies and said it was taken in Auschwitz by a prisoner and smuggled out.
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Old 09-01-2010, 07:47 PM
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The six million number was arrived by purely speculative means, whether there were nefarious reasons behind I will not discuss because it can not be pr oven either way. But what IS known, that the 6 million wasn't always 6 millions, 9 and even 12 millions have been put forward. As records became available it became apparent that the higher numbers were impossible. Therefore an estimate was made on how many Jews lived in occupied Europe before the holocaust and how many survived. Both numbers are impossible to verify. The Nazi records only reveal a few hundred thousand - which is almost assuredly mistaken. Totals at some camps have been revised down (Auschwitz, Treblinka, Majdanek) yet the TOTAL number during these revisions has remained at 6 million. I am not saying the holocaust did not happen, because it most assuredly did- I have always maintained that whether a prisoner died of typhus or gas makes no difference- the Nazis were still responsible.
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Old 09-03-2010, 07:47 PM
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Not to my knowledge.

It's not wrong propaganda. Those numbers, while obviously not 100% right, are meant to be estimates. To put it bluntly - a lot of Jews died in the Holocaust - and it's definitely the case that modern Jewry has not yet made up for the amount of people lost in those years. Also, a lot of Jews were facing extermination in Russia. Similarly high numbers.
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Old 09-07-2010, 07:47 PM
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As the grand-daughter of Russian Jews refugees in South America, I am qualified to say the persecution did not start with the holocaust.
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Old 09-12-2010, 07:47 PM
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I don't know, but that's pretty weird they used the number "six million."

The Holocaust was obviously a horrible event in human history, but the Jews are not the only people to ever experience genocide.

My wife is a Hindu Sindhi, millions of Sindhis had to escape their homeland when the state of Pakistan was formed in the late 1940s. People were slaughtered and mutilated, women were raped. My own mother in law managed to escape by dressing like a Muslim (Muslim friends gave her the clothes). and carried her baby. She says she carried cyanide pills for her and her son to commit suicide if they were caught. All of their property and a successful business had to be left behind with nothing to show for it. My wife was born in Madras, which was their temporary home until they started a new life in Pune, India, near Mumbai.

My brother's father in law is a Jewish German who was a little boy living in Germany when Hitler was gaining power. His father was a doctor, and moved his wife and children to India (odd coincidence, I know) starting a new practice in Bangalore before the holocaust. His grandmother stayed behind (I'm not sure why); she wound up hanging herself because the Nazis were coming for her.

Nobody knows how many Armenians were killed by the Turks in World War I, Joseph Stalin and Mao Zedong are both responsible for the deaths of millions who opposed (or were suspected of opposing) their regimes.

My fellow Baha'is are persecuted to this very day in Iran. They are not allowed to go to college, and they are often imprisoned and executed on trumped up charges; usually "spying for Israel and the USA." Baha'is have no political agenda, our religion discourages alignment with political parties.

I feel sad for the Jews who died in World War II, I went to Haifa and Akka Israel last year and found it was beautiful place. I saw Jews, Muslims, Christians, Baha'is and Druze working side by side in peaceful coexistence. I wish the rest of Israel could be like that. But the Palestinians deserve to have the own home land; it is patently wrong to treat anyone like a second class citizen in his own country. It would be a big step towards ending terrorism in the world.
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