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Old 08-06-2010, 04:12 PM
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Default Mormon's and the tablets of Joseph Smith?

Do the so called spiritual tablets found by Joseph Smith somewhere in a dark damp cave somewhere really exist,or is all just a myth.If it is true,wouldn't you think they would be put on public show and if found to be genuine wouldn't you think more people would become Mormons
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Old 08-08-2010, 04:12 PM
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Obviously a myth, or even more likely an all out fabrication.
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:12 PM
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You do not become a Mormon just because they found some tablets.The Mormons actually have the closest religion to the truth of the matter though.Research it , you will be amazed.
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Old 08-17-2010, 04:12 PM
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Never happened.
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Old 08-19-2010, 04:12 PM
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Yes, this is part of their doctrine. They say an angel took the plates back to God.
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Old 08-24-2010, 04:12 PM
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The tablets are a lie that became a myth. Joseph Smith was delusional. He wan into occult things like crystal balls & fortune telling. He was also a convicted fraud.

Those guys didn't move to Utah for the scenery. They were not welcome in polite society.
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Old 08-25-2010, 04:12 PM
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They took the tablets already
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Old 08-28-2010, 04:12 PM
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the plates were taken back by the same messenger who helped bring them forth in the first place. there were other witnesses who saw the plates - so it's not just the word of one man, as some would have you believe -
http://eom.byu.edu/index.php/Book_of_Mormon_Witnesses
those who lack faith are usually the same ones who want or expect material evidence/"proof". and this evidence will come to an individual, but only after having passed a test of faith.
the Lord refused to allow men to use these sacred plates for commercial or personal benefit; the second, and most important, was so the Lord could test the faith of all who receive the record.
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Old 08-31-2010, 04:12 PM
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Actually, they were not found in a dark damp cave.

The angel Moroni lead Joseph to the place where they were buried, for several years, on the same date each year, until the time was right for him to get them. Read his full account of getting the plates at Josephs.net, if you want to know the actual story.

13 other people were allowed to see the plates. Joseph was not the only one. And they all gave their testimony of seeing and handling them.

How would anyone prove they were actually genuine though? I am positive there would always be those who would dismiss them. Signs and things like that don't help a person develop a testimony. Faith first, then comes the answers. Think about it... people SAW Christ perform miracles, and they crucified Him. I don't think having the plates around would convert anyone.
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Old 09-02-2010, 04:12 PM
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You have asked a question, yet I perceive from the tone of it that you do not expect, nor will you accept a truthful answer. Why the cynicism?

I recommend that you obtain a copy of the Book of Mormon and read the Introduction and Joseph Smith's own testimony. Then read the Book and find out for yourself. Be sure to be prayerful about your reading and then apply Moroni 10:4-5. Who knows better than God? Let Him answer your question.
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Old 09-03-2010, 04:12 PM
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Where Are the Golden Plates Today?

If the Golden Plates were available for examination today, they could prove or disprove the claims Joseph Smith made about them and give scholars an insight into the language of Reformed Egyptian. Unfortunately, when the translation was finished, the plates were taken back to heaven by Moroni. This is what Smith claimed.
About Witnesses?

This, the official version of events, causes many critics to question whether or not the Golden Plates ever existed. Complicating the issue is the concept that many of the witnesses saw them with their "spiritual eyes" rather than physical eyes, which ties into a common metaphysical belief of the 19Th century.

Read more: http://mormonism.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_golden_plates#ixzz0W0mQqRTb

Read more: http://mormonism.suite101.com/article.cfm/the_golden_plates#ixzz0W0mBbpLQ


The actual translation "process' was with a stone in a hat. Joseph would hold the hat up to his face and letters would appear and his scribe would write them down.
The gold tablets were said to be in the woods or hidden under a blanket in the other room. (from LDS statements and diaries)

Quote from David Whitmer,
?Joseph Smith would put the seer stone into a hat, and put his face in the hat, drawing it closely around his face to exclude the light; and in the darkness the spiritual light would shine. A piece of something resembling parchment would appear, and on that appeared the writing. One character at a time would appear, and under it was the interpretation in English. Brother Joseph would read off the English to Oliver Cowdery, who was his principal scribe, and when it was written down and repeated to Brother Joseph to see if it was correct, then it would disappear, and another character with the interpretation would appear. Thus the Book of Mormon was translated by the gift and power of God, and not by any power of man.? (David Whitmer, An Address to All Believers in Christ, Richmond, Mo.: n.p., 1887, p. 12.)"

*Mormon leaders have confirmed this method...HTTP://library.lds.org/nxt/gateway.dll/Magazines/Ensign/1993.htm/ensign%20july%201993.htm/a%20treasured%20testament.htm

Now this rock method is not taught to Mormon youth or potential converts at ALL! Pictures are shown with scribe and smith sitting at a table just a working away.
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Old 09-08-2010, 04:12 PM
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there was over 11 witnesses to the plates.
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Old 09-12-2010, 04:12 PM
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First of all they were plates fashioned from gold, not tablets. They were bound with three rings, and a portion of the plates were sealed with a band around them. They were found in a stone box (not a cave). Joseph saw in vision the exact place where they lay buried beneath a large stone after he was visited by the angel Moroni. Once he had the plates, thieves started hounding him trying to steal them. Once the translation was complete, he was allowed to show the plates to several people. At least four other people also saw the angel Moroni, who in life was the prophet who buried the plates.
Several people also watched the work of translation, finding no deception in the process.
To date some 13 million people have joined the LDS church, and I expect that number to double in the next fifteen years.
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Old 09-13-2010, 04:12 PM
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Joseph Smith was led to the location of the hidden metal gold plates wherein the record of an ancient people who inhabited the Americas was located. Through the gift and power of God, the uneducated farm boy Joesph Smith translated the record into English; that record is now known as the Book of Mormon. The heavenly messenger that showed the boy prophet were the plates were hidden, received the plates back after the completed translation.

Prior to that, upwards of 13 people observed and lifted the plates, and witnessed that they did exist. There testimonies of having seen the plates is recorded for all to see and read.

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/thrwtnss
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/eghtwtns
http://scriptures.lds.org/en/bm/jstestimony

There are examples of the ancients recording their words on plates of metal. Here are a few links to such examples; in other words, writing on metallic plates is not unprecedented.

http://www.copper-scroll-project.com/what-is-the-copper-scroll.html
http://romanplates.byu.edu/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper_Scroll

You might note that there is no museum relic of the original manuscripts of the Bible.......
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Old 09-17-2010, 04:12 PM
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Of course they don't exist. You can also the validity of the book he produced from these supposed plates from what we know about Ancient America during the time period he claims the book took place.

The Book of Mormon has a number a problems. Smith claimed that steel was used in Jeruselem in 600 BC. It wasn't. He also claimed that steel smelting and production was around in America. It wasn't. He also claimed that many domestic animals were around such as horses but they weren't prior to the Spanish. Archeology doesn't support the Book of Mormon either. Now that we've cracked the Mayan code, we again find nothing to support Book of Mormon historical claims. Clearly it's a work of 19Th century fiction.
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