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As usual Happy is clueless as is the ask er, there can be no philosophical objection to religion, each is unto its own. They do not call themselves Mormons, which suggests that the facts in this discussion are incidental to the ignorance of the ask er. Happy's argument, no matter how articulate lacks merit, because it is factually incorrect. What I see is an intellectual discussion based on ignorance, this I can have a philosophical objection to, one precludes the other. I am not a Latter Day Saint nor do I aspire to be, but I have had 16 sets of missionaries to my home to discuss their religion, and have attended services at their churches. (several different ones) I have done the same with many religions. I can say this with certainty, the Latter Day Saints are one of the kindest groups I've dealt with and are responsible members of their communities. Philosophically, They are who they say they are, nothing more and nothing less, if you cannot find god here then move along.
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