Under Canon Law, the Lutheran Episcopal line is no longer valid, so their priests are not validly ordained, thus Lutheran Communion is not, in the eyes of the Church, the Body and Blood of Christ, and to profess it as such would be idolatry. So, in a word, no.
no - as a Roman Catholic you believe that the Eucharist is the Body and Blood of our Lord, Jesus Christ. The Lutheran church broke with the Catholic church a long time ago and they don't have validly ordained priests, so they don't have a valid Eucharist. while we must respect the religious beliefs of our Lutheran brothers and sisters, we must also be truthful to our Catholic faith.
The Lutheran Church Missouri Synod does not serve communion to members of other denominations. Although in a large congregation, a Catholic or any other non-Lutheran could probably slip in and not be noticed. Read the post by anonymous Lutheran. It is the best one. What I said above is correct, but his is more thorough and complete.
No. To remain in communion with the Catholic Church, you must not receive communion at any church whose ordination is not recognized.
Also, the only Lutheran denomination in the US that would commune you under normal circumstances is the ELCA. That represents roughly two thirds of Lutheran church membership in the US; but if you assent to the Catholic Church's teachings on issues such as abortion and homosexuality, you would *not* want to receive communion in an ELCA church for that reason alone.
EDIT: spark777 is wrong. Luther did not believe that the Eucharist is only a symbol, nor did he intentionally break communion with the Catholic Church. This is all established fact which anyone who studies history can find out for themselves.
The Lutheran belief about the nature of the Eucharist is very similar to that of the Eastern Orthodox: We reject transubstantiation because it is an attempt to explain a mystery through philosophy, and such attempts are a minefield. The only description we offer is that Christ's body and blood are in, with, and under the external forms of bread and wine--a description completely compatible with the Roman Catholic view.
According to the Church you can not for the reasons already stated.
This subject saddens my heart... it's religious legalism at it's worst.
I understand about believing that the Eucharist being the body of Christ. Consider this...communion is not just something you receive or share with others on Sunday. It is what God desires with us 24/7 365. This is why Christ died for us, so that by His atonement and redemption we could be one with the Father. Through Him we can have an intimate and dynamic relationship with the living God. That is the communion every Christian now has by the new covenant Christ has established with mankind. It is not dependent on our beliefs, denomination, doctrine, traditions, etc. It is solely dependent on God's mercy and grace.
The belief that the Roman Catholic Church is the only true Church of Jesus Christ by right of apostolic succession has done more harm than good. History is filled with the detrimental outcomes mankind has suffered because of this. It reminds me of the constant division and disagreement caused by the Sadducee's and Pharisees during the time of Christ... and we all know how He felt about that. Religious legalism is a veiled pride and power gambit. It has little to do with Spiritual "righteousness".
Seriously, do you believe that God only operates within the doctrines and traditions of the RCC? That He can not or does not work through other churches, priests or denominations? Dare you set limits on and stand in the way of our almighty and living God? The very thought is ridiculous, yet many firmly believe that this is true. Any person or Church that believes in this exclusive doctrine is in error.
Think of this as just being a heretical opinion? It's a fact... having the same proof given to the council in Jerusalem by Peter in Acts 15... the indwelling Holy Spirit of God. Please note that James was the head and made the decision, not Peter, and that it was not the RCC. Christianity is not about our religious beliefs and traditions... it is about our individual relationships with the living God.
We probably could but why would we as we along with our Orthodox Brothers and Sisters have the only Priest that can with the power of GOD serve the Holy Eucharist of the Mass the body and blood of Christ.
No. The Lutheran Church intentionally broke Communion with the Catholic Church. Martin Luther, a former Catholic priest, decided the Catholic Church was lying about the Holy Eucharist and that communion is and always should be nothing more than bread and wine that symbolize Christ but do not become Him.
For that reason, a Catholic person cannot take the communion offered in a Lutheran Church, and a Lutheran person cannot receive the Holy Eucharist when visiting the Catholic Church. It's a shame, but that was Martin Luther's intention when he started a new church.
The Catholic Church asks followers of other denominations and/or religions to refrain from partaking in the consumption of the Eucharist, out of respect for our Church, faith, and beliefs. The Church teaches that the Eucharist should only be consumed by those Catholics who understand the full depth of the incredible gift that Christ is giving us.
The Catholic Church reciprocates that request by advising its own members to refrain from partaking in the communion of another church: out of respect for both our beliefs (of Christ's real presence in only validly consecrated hosts), and theirs.
If you are in such a predicament at this time:
-if this particular Lutheran church distributes communion via a procession line, simply remain in your seat; don't enter the procession.... or,
-if this church distributes communion by passing around a plate of bread and min-cups of juice, simply pass the plate and cups to the next person in the pew.
Yes. The Lutherans have have Communion with the Greek Orthodox and all Orthodox Katholikos ( Gr Universal ) Apostolic Christian ONLY IF
The Lutherans have entered into full communion with such differing bodies ... However, Orthodox insist on complete agreement on all points of belief re Communion
The Greek Orthodox Or Any True Orthodox do not take communion with the RC Church..
NO ORTHODOX WILL TAKE COMMUNION IN AN RC CHURCH
The is only the Greek Catholics ( Not Orthodox ) who United with the RC Church and recognize the Pope.AND EVEN SOME OF THEM WILL NOT .. ( When RC paid to the priests to have them join. in Eastern Distress ..
TRUE ORTHODOX DON'T BELIEVE IN TRANSUBSTANTIATION.
The Bible States. This is my body and my Blood and it is ( No
TransubstantiationSO IT IT WRITTTEN SO IT IS.
Wow . A masters degree. Thus you are an expert? MMM
The Roman Catholic Church does not permit its members to receive Communion in any other denomination. The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America (ELCA), the largest Lutheran community in the USA, welcomes all baptized persons to receive the Sacrament. It is up to each person to decide for him/herself what to do. In any case, it is God, not the Church, who looks at the heart. God does not seem to be particularly concerned with denominational nit-picking. Lutherans do not believe in transubstantiation (bread & wine become body & blood, literally); but we do hold that the living Christ is in some way present to the believer in the Sacrament. I will let theologians speculate about this. The immense grace that comes through the Sacrament is not limited by denominational beliefs, since these are only human understandings and therefore just a glimpse of God's reality.
I should note here that the Lutheran Church-Missouri Synod and the Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod do not follow the example of the ELCA. Those Lutheran communities have some rules about who may/may not receive the Sacrament and under what conditions.
sure but they shouldn't---The Lutheran's wouldn't stop them though but why would they?---They are not in communion with the Lutheran Church they are in communion with the Catholic Church and although the Lutherans would say different---they do not believe in transubstantiation
First of all to Zena they shows you are displaying signs of heresies because obviously because you don't believe in Transubtation which is the Real pretense of our Lord God His very Flesh and Blood
You Orthodox believed in that as well except you called in differently and don't have the words of consecration
Roman Catholics may receive Holy Eucharist in an Eastern Oriental Orthodox or Assryian Church of the East as we share the same theological beliefs as us Roman Catholics and Eastern Catholics
So i don't know why you are making such a big difference.No difference at all.Going against that would be going against the teachings and theology of our Eastern Church and would be guilty foe Hersey
Secondly Zena is wrong in saying that the Communion given by the
Lutheran priest is the same as the Catholic or Orthodox one.While Luther himself believed in the Real pretense of our Lord God Jesus Christ.Today.Lutherans Churches are mixed in beliefs about the Holy Eucharist.Some high Church Lutherans believe in the Real Precense the Flesh and Blood of our Lord God Jesus Christ.Some Evangalical Lutherans believe it as Memorial
But in any case for them it is the not the Real Body and Blood of our Lord Messiah JEsus Christ.Also the Lutheran pastor is not properly consecrated according to the prescribed rite of the priesthood Latin or Eastern Rite which primary purpose of their priestly function is to celebrate the Holy Eucharist and say the words of consecration.This is my Body This is my Blood
The Lutherans do not have proper sacraments as they have retained only 2 Baptism and Holy Communion .Thus they do not have proper scarements and THUS their priesthood is invalid
They are some Lutherans Churches in Sweden and Finland claim to have valid ordination by some Orthodox priest or Old Catholic Church which split in the mid 19 century.These claims cannot be verified as it happened quite long ago
Furthermore like the Anglicans some of these Lutheran pastors and Bishops participate in illicit ordination of Episcopate(Anglicans) Churches in United States and this is illegal because if i werea Lutheran and i see another Bishop from another Christain Demoniation consecrating a Lutheran Bishop.I know it is wrong as these Bishop has different sets of theological beliefs and values and it should be done by my own Bishop of my Church
So The only Holy Communion you can receive is from the Roman Catholic and Eastern Catholic Churches,Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox Churches and Assryian Churches of the East.These Churches have valid rites since the time of Jesus Christ the Almighty God and the Apostles who laid the foundations of these rite such Latin Byzatine Antioch and a few others
But other than that Those Churches who have not a valid consecration
rite or Sacrements cannot claim to have the Real Precense Transubtation the Real Flesh and Blood of our Lord God and Mesisah Jesus Christ
Lutherans or Anglicans may receive Holy communion in a Roman Catholic Church provided that they cannot find their own Churches within their own vicnity
They also may receive last rites shoud they request for a Roman Catholic priest and the priest will give the Real Flesh and Blood of our Lord God Jesus Christ
The Roman CAtholic Church never paid any money to the Ukranian Orthodox Church for their clergy and Church to rejoin the Roman CAtholic Church.In Fact the Catholic cHurch of Ukraine has suffered much due to forced conversions to the Russian Orthodox Church.Some of our Ukranian Catholic Churches were taken away and stolen and likewise our clergy and Ukranian-Greek Catholic Christains also
Up to today the Russian Orthodox Church have not returned them back to the Roman Catholic Church
We gave you Our Lady of Kazan.We want the remains of ourBeloved Pope Clement I back and our Ukranian-Greek Catholic Church back
Yours in Christ