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Old 07-23-2009, 11:29 PM
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Default Why does protestantism Lie to its adherants?

I was a protestant girl. We were never told to not read the Apocrypha, we were never discouraged from the Church Fathers nor church History...Instead of insulting these things, they just didn't teach that they existed. I have never in 20 years heard of these writings and it to me seems twisted to know something but to avoid conversing about the origins of scripture, or church doctrines. They deny Ancient traditions to serve their own 500 year old traditions. But by will full omission, they all choose to not teach these things. To me, this is blatantly lying to the congregation to control them. They are doing it in a nice way..but the ministers know the truth yet choose to avoid it at all cost for the sake of their bias against the older churches.
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Old 07-25-2009, 11:29 PM
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all religions lie.
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:29 PM
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Omission of something not taught is not willfully telling someone a falsehood.

Think about this: does a school board lie to its students if it decides not to teach ancient Greek as a language in the school district and makes no mention of the language any of its classes?
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Old 08-01-2009, 11:29 PM
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I find it sad that you were not encouraged to be like the church of Berea and sea ch the scripture for truth, however your experience does not exhibit non catholic churches as a whole. That church may have been trying to control their congregation, although not AL Protestant churches do that.

I am not a catholic. I am a Berean and we are encouraged to seek out scripts and to know the history of the church. We make the Choice to believe what we do.
Do not forget that there are also claims by the Catholic church that are not only umbilical, but also have been pr oven false by both Jewish historians and secular ones as well.
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Old 08-04-2009, 11:29 PM
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Same reason ALL religions lie to their adherents. Control.
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Old 08-05-2009, 11:29 PM
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The Truth scares a lot of people. Those who purposely deny what exists do so because they are afraid of what it means and they don't want to admit to being wrong. We should remember to pray for all those that know Truth exists, but need strength and encouragement to act on it.

Thanks for sharing your story.
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Old 08-07-2009, 11:29 PM
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Welcome to the real world! Everybody lies to everybody to further their own agenda and to he*% with the truth. The truth is the Apocrypha was left out of the protestant bible because they were breaking away from the Catholic Church and needed to be different, so leave out a piece of it and change this to read so we can have divorce, or what-ever the event was that they decided to split off. This has been done, even by some of the protestants who have split into another branch or denotation.
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Old 08-12-2009, 11:29 PM
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Simple rule of thumb;
God = #1.
False God man = #2.
False God man tries to control false god man. (division in Christianity; not unique presently to protestantism only).
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Old 08-15-2009, 11:29 PM
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There are doctrines of men that would have you drag your faith through places like Rome, Salt Lake City, Mecca or some other dumb ass place.

The "older churches" distract from Jesus. They put up depictions and statuary of those you should not pray to and who cannot help you.

"There is now but one mediator, between God and man, the man Christ Jesus."

The King James christian bible stands on its own. It does not take the learned church leaders, men all, who know not of the things of God. Things that are spiritually discerned. Why would I put my faith in that "for show" religious pomposity that is the catholic church?

Good thing about free will. Only one path leads to Jesus and the majority of all people never find it but we all have that individual opportunity regardless of the "religion" we belong to perhaps find and travel it.
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Old 08-18-2009, 11:29 PM
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The books of the Apocrypha were not included in the Bible for a reason. Your church did not teach you these things for a reason. I know of only one church that uses them, and that is the catholic church. There may be more, but that is the only one that I know of.

In addition to the 39 books which were received into the canon of the Hebrew Old Testament, there were certain other ancient books which possessed much literary, philosophical, or historical significance, and which were considered by many to be religiously helpful. Of these books, the following 15 were judged to be most important:
1 & 2 Esdras; Tobit; Judith; Esther (additional chapters); the Wisdom of Solomon; Ecclesiasticus (also known as the Wisdom of Jesus the son of Sirach); Baruch; the Letter of Jeremiah; the Prayer of Azariah and the Song of the Three Young Men; Suzanna; Bell and the Dragon; the Prayer of Manasseh; 1 & 2 Maccabees.
It is probable that most of these books, if not all of them, were originally written in Hebrew, but only fragments of them in that language are now extant. We know them chiefly through Greek translations; i.e., the translations which were made for the Septuagint.
Although these books , at first, had been interspersed among the other Hebrew "Writings" (the Hagiographa), the Rabbis, after careful consideration, decided not to give them a place in the OT canon. This is not to say that the Rabbis regarded them as fabrications or as inconsequential, but rather that they judged them to exhibit a lesser degree of inspiration than the books making up the Law, the Prophets, and the Writings as canonically determined. The Council of Jamnia, in A.D. 90, did not include these 15 books with the other sacred writings; and that decision has been upheld by Jewish scholars down to the present time.

There is much more to be said about these books, most notably that the catholic church included them in their Latin Bible. That Latin Bible was taken from 44 corrupted manuscripts, which were used for a time at the Alexandrian School, while over 5300 non-corrupted manuscripts, which had been used by every non-heretical translation since the first century, were ignored.

How does this add up to a "protestantism" lie? Would you rather study these books, as well as other catholic doctrine, which is laced with the doctrines and teachings of men, and other teachings that are purely lies?
Consider the catholic teachings of purgatory, a lie which they still swear to, and limbo, which their newest pope has declared is not true, and so now all catholics say that it was never really considered to be true, although it was. Search old questions in the archives of this very site, and you will find catholic answers to questions that tell you that babies that die without being baptized go to this made-up catholic place called limbo. But it is not true anymore, thanks to the new pope.

Study about Christ. About who He really is, and what He did. You owe Him everything.
When it comes down to it, Catholicism, protestantism, and all the other -isms are merely shadows of things to come. Implements used by Satan to get our minds and thoughts off of Christ. HE is what matters. HE deserves our attention, our studies, our praise, our worship, our honor, and all of the glory.
The books of the Apocrypha mean nothing, when compared to the glory of God through Jesus Christ.
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