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Old 07-31-2009, 01:38 AM
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Default Isn't the rapture doctrine one of the most ludicrous teachings to come out of Protest

Isn't the rapture doctrine one of the most ludicrous teachings to come out of Protestantism?
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Old 08-02-2009, 01:38 AM
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Pretty much, yeah.

But there are so many to choose from.
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Old 08-04-2009, 01:38 AM
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Yes
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Old 08-08-2009, 01:38 AM
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Yes, it's based on a single word in a single passage in a single book of the Bible.

Even worse?

Using a definition found only in the English translation, not the earliest manuscripts available.
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Old 08-09-2009, 01:38 AM
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That's why it only exists in America. The rest of the Christian world scratches it's head over us.
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Old 08-13-2009, 01:38 AM
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It comes out of the New Testament. Try reading it; it's in there. It may not be called by that name, but it is described perfectly. (1 Thessalonians 4)
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Old 08-18-2009, 01:38 AM
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rape is not a good thing!
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Old 08-21-2009, 01:38 AM
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there are some bible verse that do teach Prue tribe rapture
there is more credibility however that these same verses actually describe the Resurrection
when the "struts" of the resurrection were raised from the dead with Christ, it cause ripple of superstition as far as Rome and other part around the world. it is from these "saints" that the testimony of the resurrection is written of and which possibly the Rapture is interpreted from
thees ch. 4 is the best example when comparing Matt 27

expounding on other verses in scriptures
first Enoch was taken after he walked with God without dying
then Moses was taken also but one verse says his body was buried while another verse says it was no where to be found
Elijah was taken in a chariot of fire
Mohammed was taken when he climbed a ladder into heaven where he was met by Jesus
John was said to be kept alive and to "tarry" on the earth but in LDS scripture john was "translated" into a different kind of body
in the book of Mormon there are 3 neophytes that are made similar in likeness with John.
also in church history a farmer was tilling his land when he beheld a grave opened and a daughter was resurrected (but have never found the actual source of this allegation-testimony)
if one were also to discover where "missing people" go in every single instance only 2 or 3 hundred thousand people are accounted for but that is in children for sex-trade-slavery.
i personally believed and taught that any person who fulfills his/her own sanctification could possibly be taken at "any" time. but individual worthiness is not discussed in this doctrine of rapture, it can only be speculated from the pure numbers of disappearing people and if one were to conclude that certain people actually become like elijah and enoch of old.
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Old 08-22-2009, 01:38 AM
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It came out of the Bible.

You only think it came out of Protestantism because more Protestants read the Bible than you do.

Both Jesus and Paul taught about the rapture.
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Old 08-23-2009, 01:38 AM
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Not to the people who believe it.

You may think it is ridiculous, but, then again, there are people who probably think some of teachings of your religion are equally ridiculous.
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Old 08-27-2009, 01:38 AM
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I'm a Christian, I read my Bible. I don't see the case for the "secret" coming of Jesus either. Not at all.
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Old 08-31-2009, 01:38 AM
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The term "rapture", and most of the popular ideas associated with it, arose out of the dispensations and millenarian (Adventist) movements of the mid to latter 19Th century. That suggests that the idea of a "rapture," especially the idea of a "secret" rapture, is far more historically and culturally conditioned then it is a biblical or theological truth. The biblical references, that are most used to support a rapture do not clearly support the idea at all. They all firmly support a "second coming" (whatever form that might take), a Resurrection, and a Judgment, all without giving any solid details about any of them.
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Old 09-03-2009, 01:38 AM
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Fundies like to rewrite Bible, if it does not support them.
Atheist.
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Old 09-06-2009, 01:38 AM
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The various religions offer many weird notions to ponder. Here's a Catholic view of The Rapture:

http://www.americancatholic.org/Newsletters/CU/ac1005.asp

But if you want ludicrous, how about this?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu

And how about the Catholic belief that in the hands of their priests, the wine and bread of Mass actually become the blood and body of Christ?

About all you can conclude is that all religious variants have beliefs and practices which seem ludicrous to outsiders.
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Old 09-10-2009, 01:38 AM
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definitely, and it isn't even in the bible. since they are literalism's you would think the rapture would be in there but there is no mention of it in scripture
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Old 09-14-2009, 01:38 AM
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I believe in the rapture and yes it is spoken about in the bible. I dint believe that its a secret rapture that just isn't found in the bible. When Jesus comes Again it will be loud and visible and the whole world will see it. There will be a loud trumpet blast then he will come out on a cloud and call the dead first then the rest of the church will meet him in the air.
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Old 09-19-2009, 01:38 AM
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Yep.....

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