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Old 11-28-2009, 04:53 AM
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Default according to the protestantism what's the true church of Jesus Christ? what denominat

what denomination is the candidate for being the church of Jesus Christ? according to the Bible.. Jesus founded one church.. but there are many denotations.. Presbyterians..lutherans, Pentecostalisms, baptizes.. etc... what do you think? it's the right?
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Old 12-02-2009, 04:53 AM
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None of the above.

Jesus' One True Church is not a denomination or an organization.

It consists of all the real, genuine Christians.

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Old 12-05-2009, 04:53 AM
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It definitely not the Mormons.
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Old 12-09-2009, 04:53 AM
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Why many Gospels bluntly deleted from New Testament by regarding it as apocrypha

http://www.comparative-religion.com/christianity/apocrypha/new-testament-apocrypha/
1. Pseudo-Jesus apocrypha
1.1 The Epistles of Jesus to Abgarus
2. Pseudo-apostolic (general) apocrypha
2.1 Teachings of the Twelve Apostles (Didache)
2.2 Epistle of the Apostles

3. Psuedo-apostolic (specific - by Apostle) apocrypha
3.1 - Andrew -
3.1.1 Acts of Andrew
3.1.2 Acts of Andrew and Matthias*

3.2 - Barnabas -
3.2.1 Acts of Barnabas*
3.2.2 Epistle of Barnabas
3.2.3 Gospel of Barnabas

3.3 - Bartholomew -
3.3.1 Gospel of Bartholomew
3.3.2 Martyrdom of Bartholomew*

3.4 - James -
3.4.1 Apocryphon of James
3.4.2 Book of James (Provencal)Liam4.3 First Apocalypse of James
3.4.4 Second Apocalypse of James

3.5 - John -
3.5.1 Acts of John
3.5.2 Acts of John the Theologian*
3.5.3 Apocryphon of John (long version)
3.5.4 Book of John the Evangelist
3.5.5 Revelation of John the Theologian*

3.6 - Mark -
3.6.1 Secret Gospel of Mark

3.7 - Matthew -
3.7.1 Acts and Martyrdom of St. Matthew the Apostle*
3.7.2 The Martyrdom of Matthew

3.8 - Nicodemus -
3.8.1 Gospel (Acts) of Nicodemus (aka The Acts of Pontius Pilate)

3.9 - Peter -
3.9.1 Acts of Peter
3.9.2 Acts of Peter and Andrew
3.9.3 Apocalypse of Peter - version 1
3.9.4 Apocalypse of Peter - version 2
3.9.5 Gospel of Peter
3.9.6 Letter of Peter to Philip

3.10 - Philip -
3.10.1 Acts of Philip
3.10.2 Gospel of Philip

3.11 - Thaddeus -
3.11.1 Acts of Thaddeus (Epistles of Pontius Pilate)*
3.11.2 Teaching of Thaddeus

3.12 - Thomas -
3.12.1 Acts of Thomas
3.12.2 Apocalypse of Thomas
3.12.3 Book of Thomas the Contender
3.12.4 Consumation of Thomas
3.12.5 Gospel of Thomas

4. Pseudo-Pauline apocrypha
4.1 3 Corinthians
4.2 Acts 29
4.3 Acts of Paul
4.4 Acts of Paul and Thecla
4.5 Acts of Peter and Paul*
4.6 Acts of Xanthippe and Polyxena
4.7 Apocalypse of Paul
4.8 Apocalypse of Paul - other version
4.9 Epistle to the Laodiceans
4.10 Revelation of Paul*
4.11 Paul and Seneca

5. Infancy Gospels apocrypha
5.1 Arabic Infancy Gospel
5.2 First Infancy Gospel of Jesus Christ
5.3 Infancy Gospel of Pseudo-Matthew
5.4 Infancy Gospel of Thomas - Greek A
5.5 Infancy Gospel of Thomas - Greek B
5.6 Infancy Gospel of Thomas - Latin

6. Relatives of Jesus apocrypha
6.1 Gospel of Mary
6.2 Gospel of the Nativity of Mary
6.3 Book of John concerning the dormition of Mary (transitus mari?)*
6.4 History of Joseph the Carpenter*
6.5 Narrative of Joseph of Arimathaea

7. Sub-canonical (disputed canon) apocrypha
7.1 Shepherd of Hermas
7.2 II Clement
7.3 Diatession
7.4 Gospel of the Lord (Marcion)

8. Other significant Epistles and pseudomynous writings and apocrypha
8.1 I Clement
8.2 Avenging of the Saviour
8,3 Epistles of Pontius Pilate
8.4 Letter of Aristeas
8.5 Sentences of the Sextus
8.6 Alexandrians
8.7 Revelations of Stephen
8.8 Muratonian Canon (fragment)

9. Fragments of lost apocryphal books
9.1 Gospel of the Ebionites
9.2 Gospel of the Egyptians
9.3 Egerton Gospel (Egerton Papyrus 2)*
9.4 Gospel of the Hebrews
9.5 Traditions of Mattias
9.6 Gospel of the Nazaraeans
9.7 Preaching of Peter

10. Apostolic Constitutions (Didascalia Apostolorum)
10.1 Book 1
10.2 Book 2
10.3 Book 3
10.4 Book 4
10.5 Book 5
10.6 Book 6
10.7 Book 7
10.8 Book 8

11. Psuedo-Sibylline Oracles **
11.0 Preface
11.1 Chapter I
11.2 Chapter II
11.3 Chapter III
11.4 Chapter IV
11.5 Chapter V
11.6 Chapter VI
11.7 Chapter VII
11.8 Chapter VIII
11.9 Chapter XI
11.10 Chapter XII
11.11 Chapter XIII
11.12 Chapter XIV
11.13 Appendices - Fragments

Come towards Quran because Quran has not version, Quran has no apocrypha
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Old 12-14-2009, 04:53 AM
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The true church is the one who follows what Jesus said. There aren't any other true churches.

The ones that believe in God's Son, and trust God for what He says, are the ones who have made peace with Him, they are therefore redeemed.
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Old 12-15-2009, 04:53 AM
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Denominations are creations of men. There is one church. God knows who believes. Those who do are in His church.

Denominations that believe they are the only believing church are proud and arrogant. This does not please God.
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Old 12-20-2009, 04:53 AM
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Bible says your body is the holy temple
truth is____ you are church. each believer
is a member of the body of Christ..
its in the bible
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Old 12-25-2009, 04:53 AM
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The true church is found in the book of Acts. That's where Jesus/Apostles began the church @ Pentecost. The "TRUE" church is the Apostolic church. See UPI.org for more info. But just read Acts!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 12-26-2009, 04:53 AM
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That's like asking a thief if possession constitutes ownership.
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Old 12-31-2009, 04:53 AM
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It is not a Denomination, it is made up of People who have been Born Again by the Holy Ghost. They exist in all Denominations.
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Old 01-04-2010, 04:53 AM
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Jesus wasn't interested in churches or denominations, He was interested in THE church, or the worldwide body of Christ that is not bound by nationality, political ideology, or demo nationality.
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Old 01-05-2010, 04:53 AM
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In the body of Christ there are many members with Christ being the head. What knits us all together is Jesus. Just as our body has many functions so also does the body of Christ. Every member having an extremely important part. Just like the baby toe, you think has little function, but if you were to cut it off , your body would fall over. Our hand and our feet look very different and have different functions but are part of the same body. so is it for the different denominations
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Old 01-07-2010, 04:53 AM
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Techiniquely, they are all "right", just different interpretations of the same basic idea. I'm Presbyterian, but it all depends on what you believe. i recommend that if you are interested in this you Viki articles on each denomination until you find one you agree with most...
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Old 01-08-2010, 04:53 AM
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Well, it cannot be a denomination, because scripture says that denominations are to be avoided.

The only mention of a "name" other than "Church" in the Bible is in a letter greeting that says "The Churches of Christ salute you".

As a biblical fundamentalist, I worship with a congregation of saints as described in the bible (a Church, of Christ).
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Old 01-13-2010, 04:53 AM
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The people who love Jesus and truly believe. This is His church.
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Old 01-15-2010, 04:53 AM
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They cannot agree. That is why we have so many Protestant denominations with new ones springing up everywhere. Still we are all part of the Christian community Catholic or Protestant.
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Old 01-18-2010, 04:53 AM
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Okay, so everybody above me answered, "the true Church/Christian is the one that follows Jesus' teachings" (paraphrasing). No one will commit to a denomination.

Jesus founded one Church. You are 100% correct. He taught one way. Your question is so on target its not funny.

I'll bet, though, that all the believers that answered your question don't all believe the same things. Bet if we sat them in a room together and tried to hammer out correct doctrine on say... baptism, we'd get 10 different answers. So, who's answer would be right? Why would theirs be right and the others wrong? Which one would have authority to make the final decision? They can't all be right.

So, it leads right back to your awesome question: which one?

Answer? It's the Church that's been there since the beginning, that gave us the bible, that can historically trace her lineage all the way back to Jesus, etc.: The Roman Catholic Church.

There - I committed to naming a denomination (something the others refuse to do).

God bless.
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Old 01-19-2010, 04:53 AM
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AN UNBROKEN HISTORY



Jesus said his Church would be "the light of the world." He then noted that "a city set on a hill cannot be hid" (Matt. 5:14). This means his Church is a visible organization. It must have characteristics that clearly identify it and that distinguish it from other churches. Jesus promised, "I will build my Church and the gates of hell will not prevail against it" (Matt. 16:18). This means that his Church will never be destroyed and will never fall away from him. His Church will survive until his return.

Among the Christian churches, only the Catholic Church has existed since the time of Jesus. Every other Christian church is an offshoot of the Catholic Church. The Eastern Orthodox churches broke away from unity with the pope in 1054. The Protestant churches were established during the Reformation, which began in 1517. (Most of today?s Protestant churches are actually offshoots of the original Protestant offshoots.)

Only the Catholic Church existed in the tenth century, in the fifth century, and in the first century, faithfully teaching the doctrines given by Christ to the apostles, omitting nothing. The line of popes can be traced back, in unbroken succession, to Peter himself. This is unequaled by any institution in history.

Even the oldest government is new compared to the papacy, and the churches that send out door-to-door missionaries are young compared to the Catholic Church. Many of these churches began as recently as the nineteenth or twentieth centuries. Some even began during your own lifetime. None of them can claim to be the Church Jesus established.

The Catholic Church has existed for nearly 2,000 years, despite constant opposition from the world. This is testimony to the Church?s divine origin. It must be more than a merely human organization, especially considering that its human members? even some of its leaders?have been unwise, corrupt, or prone to heresy.

Any merely human organization with such members would have collapsed early on. The Catholic Church is today the most vigorous church in the world (and the largest, with a billion members: one sixth of the human race), and that is testimony not to the cleverness of the Church?s leaders, but to the protection of the Holy Spirit.



FOUR MARKS OF THE TRUE CHURCH



If we wish to locate the Church founded by Jesus, we need to locate the one that has the four chief marks or qualities of his Church. The Church we seek must be one, holy, catholic, and apostolic.

The Church Is One (Rom. 12:5, 1 Cor. 10:17, 12:13, CCC 813?822)
Jesus established only one Church, not a collection of differing churches (Lutheran, Baptist, Anglican, and so on). The Bible says the Church is the bride of Christ (Eph. 5:23?32). Jesus can have but one spouse, and his spouse is the Catholic Church.

His Church also teaches just one set of doctrines, which must be the same as those taught by the apostles (Jude 3). This is the unity of belief to which Scripture calls us (Phil. 1:27, 2:2).

Although some Catholics dissent from officially-taught doctrines, the Church?s official teachers?the pope and the bishops united with him?have never changed any doctrine. Over the centuries, as doctrines are examined more fully, the Church comes to understand them more deeply (John 16:12?13), but it never understands them to mean the opposite of what they once meant.

The Church Is Holy (Eph. 5:25?27, Rev. 19:7?8, CCC 823?829)
By his grace Jesus makes the Church holy, just as he is holy. This dozen?t mean that each member is always holy. Jesus said there would be both good and bad members in the Church (John 6:70), and not all the members would go to heaven (Matt. 7:21?23).

But the Church itself is holy because it is the source of holiness and is the guardian of the special means of grace Jesus established, the sacraments (cf. Eph. 5:26).

The Church Is Catholic (Matt. 28:19?20, Rev. 5:9?10, CCC 830?856)
Jesus? Church is called catholic ("universal" in Greek) because it is his gift to all people. He told his apostles to go throughout the world and make disciples of "all nations" (Matt. 28:19?20).

For 2,000 years the Catholic Church has carried out this mission, preaching the good news that Christ died for all men and that he wants all of us to be members of his universal family (Gal. 3:28).

Nowadays the Catholic Church is found in every country of the world and is still sending out missionaries to "make disciples of all nations" (Matt. 28:19).

The Church Jesus established was known by its most common title, "the Catholic Church," at least as early as the year 107, when Ignatius of Antioch used that title to describe the one Church Jesus founded. The title apparently was old in Ignatius?s time, which means it probably went all the way back to the time of the apostles.

The Church Is Apostolic (Eph. 2:19?20, CCC 857?865)
The Church Jesus founded is apostolic because he appointed the apostles to be the first leaders of the Church, and their successors were to be its future leaders. The apostles were the first bishops, and, since the first century, there has been an unbroken line of Catholic bishops faithfully handing on what the apostles taught the first Christians in Scripture and oral Tradition (2 Tim. 2:2).

These beliefs include the bodily Resurrection of Jesus, the Real Presence of Jesus in the Eucharist, the sacrificial nature of the Mass, the forgiveness of sins through a priest, baptismal regeneration, the existence of purgatory, Mary?s special role, and much more ?even the doctrine of apostolic succession itself.

Early Christian writings prove the first Christians were thoroughly Catholic in belief and practice and looked to the successors of the apostles as their leaders. What these first Christians believed is still believed by the Catholic Church. No other Church can make that claim.
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he he... my Pastor say the first thing Jesus is gonna do when He comes back is burn up ALL the church signs!
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