Pastor Billy Asks... Why does Protestantism have to prove Catholicism wrong to be Cor
Pastor Billy Asks... Why does Protestantism have to prove Catholicism wrong to be Correct? when Catholicism is correct all on it's own.
try reading GK Chesterton THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AND CONVERSION
http://www.ewtn.com/library/CHRIST/CONVERSI.TXT
I owe the fact that I find it very difficult to take some of the
Protestant propositions even seriously. What is any man who has
been in the real outer world, for instance, to make of the
everlasting cry that Catholic traditions are condemned by the
Bible? It indicates a jumble of Topsy-turvy tests and tail-foremost
arguments, of which I never could at any time see the sense. The
ordinary sensible septic or pagan is standing in the street (in the
supreme character of the man in the street) and he sees a
procession go by of the priests of some strange cult, carrying their
object of worship under a canopy, some of them wearing high
head-dresses and carrying symbolical staffs, others carrying
scrolls and sacred records, others carrying sacred images and
lighted candles before them, others sacred relics in caskets or
cases, and so on. I can understand the spectator saying, "This is all
hocks-pocus"; I can even understand him, in moments of irritation,
breaking up the procession, throwing down the images, tearing up
the scrolls, dancing on the priests and anything else that might
express that general view. I can understand his saying, "Your
crozier's are bosh, your candles are bosh, your statues and scrolls
and relics and all the rest of it are bosh." But in what conceivable
frame of mind does he rush in to select one particular scroll of the
scriptures of this one particular group (a scroll which had always
belonged to them and been a part of their hocks-pocus, if it was
hocks-pocus); why in the world should the man in the street say
that one particular scroll was not bosh, but was the one and only
truth by which all the other things were to be condemned? Why
should it not be as superstitious to worship the scrolls as the
statues, of that one particular procession? Why should it not be as
reasonable to preserve the statues as the scrolls, by the tenets of
that particular creed? To say to the priests, "Your statues and
scrolls are condemned by our common sense," is sensible. To say,
"Your statues are condemned by your scrolls, and we are going to
worship one part of your procession and wreck the rest," is not
sensible from any standpoint, least of all that of the man in the
street.
also, http://www.catholic.com/thisrock/2000/0011fea2.asp
Unsolved Miseries stick to the original question, but to answer you God's Word is not in dispute, it is the traditions of interpretation we all carry Catholic and Protestant and whether or not it aligns correctly with that of First Christianity (which was Catholic). Contrary to your guise of a question, the God's Word is not supportive of your position and it does not denounce what it upholds.
We don't have to "prove" it, but I want to challenge other people to study the Bible objectively to see what it really says. Many Catholic beliefs are not in line with what the Bible says, and the claim that the RCC gave us the Bible is not correct. If what the Bible says is truth, then anything contradictory to what it says would have to be false.
"What is any man who has
been in the real outer world, for instance, to make of the
everlasting cry that Catholic traditions are condemned by the
Bible? It indicates a jumble of Topsy-turvy tests and tail-foremost arguments, of which I never could at any time see the sense."
Just look at what the Bible really says. Traditions were actually changed from what the original Apostles established.
All I have to do is read the Bible, especially look at what Jesus said, and I can see clearly that Roman Catholicism is way off the path.
Matthew 6:7
"And when you pray, do not keep on babbling like pagans, for they think they will be heard because of their many words."
That one point right there should allow any of the redeemed with the influence of the Holy Spirit to see that taught fallacy of the RCC. Yet they do it.
Definition
to stammer
to repeat the same things over and over, to use many idle words, to babble, prate. Some suppose the word derived from Battus, a king of Cyrene, who is said to have stuttered; others from Battus, an author of tedious and wordy poems.
http://www.biblestudytools.com/Lexicons/Greek/grk.cgi?number=945&version=kjv
Denominational Protestants are still tied to much of your extra-biblical doctrines. I'm not denominational. And, I am not interested in converting back to the Mary-worship ping religion from which I was baptized into.
Why does God's word have to be wrong for Catholics to be correct?
EDIT: Actually, it's quite clear that you are tied down by that demonic doctrine. I pray that you may one day feel free of that stronghold.
I never said that Protestantism have to prove anything God is the one that proves everyone both protest ism & Catholic Because Catholic is the great whore in Rev. & the harlots is the offspring of Catholicisms.
its because the bible says one thing and Catholicism says another. teaching a different scripture than what was given to us by God. the bible is very clear about teaching another gospel. we are to reject it and correct those who teach false. the bible states this so people are not deceived and can receive the full truth of the Gospel/ salvation through Christ not by works lest we boast/ Catholics teach works will gain your salvation. this is the exact opposite of the bible. it is a method used to control the people. Catholicism is a political religion that has suppressed and murdered more people than most wars. all in the name of God. that is purely evil and satanic.
One cannot have God for his Father, who will not have the Church for his Mother, and likewise, one cannot have the Word of God for his faith who will not have the Church for his teacher. It is the infallible teaching authority of the Church, as promised by Christ, which alone preserves God's Word from erroneous interpretation.
Protestants must prove the Catholic teachings to be wrong in order to be right because they contradict Catholic teachings, and both cannot be right. For example, either we are saved by faith alone, as Protestants argue, or we are saved by faith, baptism, self-renunciation, repentance, moral self-correction, adopting the humility of a child, eating the bread of life, and enduring to the end, as Jesus taught and Catholics believe.
However, as Chesterton points out in his wonderful narrative style, Protestants cannot pull out one Catholic document, the New Testament, and use tendentious, non historical readings to bash all other Catholic teachings. Catholics wrote, selected, and have always venerated the Bible because its message is completely consistent with Catholic teachings. In fact, the only real way to understand the New Testament is by reading the Catholic Fathers of the Church in the first several centuries of Christianity.
Because they know that Jesus Christ founded only one Church. And they know that the Catholic Church started since the time of the Apostles. Their particular denomination has the chance of being the true Church if:
1. The Catholic Church becomes apostate and cease being the true Church.
2. The Catholic Church turns out to be not the Church that Jesus founded.
Those protestants who claim (or who want to believe) that the Catholic Church became apostate and ceased being the true Church must address the issue of the promise of Jesus that "the gates of hell will not prevail against the Church. Their claim is tantamount to calling Jesus a liar or that He made a wrong prophesy.
Those who claim that the Catholic Church was not the Church founded by Jesus claim that the Catholic Church was founded by Constantine. However they have nothing to show that would prove their theory. Some cite the Edict of Milan as the document creating the Church but nothing in that document suggest the creation of any Church. They must also have to con end with the successors of Peter up to the time of Constantine (were these popes not Catholic?). Some say that the true Christians went underground and resurfaced sometime during the 16Th century. This is a preposterous proposition since they have no historical proof and it is evident that they just made up this story.
Most of them must avoid history and consider the Bible as the only source of truth. Many feel that they have to repeat lies over and over hoping that by doing so, their lies will become truth.
They know that all other "churches" would be false if the Catholic Church is the true Chruch. Notice how they misinterpret Mathew 16:18?
Unsolved Miseries is a lone-ranger fun die (unlike most fun dies, he rejects the Holy Trinity) who hates Catholics. He claims not to hate Catholics but loves attacking Catholic doctrines and the Catholic Church. It is very clear that Unsolved Miseries is misled by Satan.
Pastor Billy Asks... Why does Protestantism have to prove Catholicism wrong to be Cor
