Is the Roman Catholic Church the Beast of Revelation?
The series of letters/numerals on the popes crown add up to 666..other evidence also..Sunday and other pagan holidays woven in the doctrine..idol and icon worship..Saints and Virgins and the pope and the Virgin Mother as substitutes for praying to Jesus.....dint attack me because you are offended by the question,or because you feel defensive...I have been reading a lot on this and I feel I need to look at someones Else's opinion...just answer the question as honestly as you can without falling back on dogma or rhetoric or personal feelings...
I am not decrying or attacking their beliefs...I am only asking a question...
who is accusing anybody of anything?..I am asking....again,this is the attack profile I spoke of in my first question.....I am only searching for more information and opinions.......
I'd get a better idea of what exactly their practices mean before decrying them from an outsider's point of view. Saints and Mary aren't used as substitutes, nor are idols worshiped. There is a difference, though it may not appear so on the surface.
ETA: I'm answering. The problem is that you've set impossible parameters. The answers *do* lie in dogma, just as in the answers to why any religion does what it does do.
As a CAtholic, I am highly offended by your accusation. I suggest you do some real research before you condemn what you don't know. Try a few Catholic websites. I have no idea where you got your information, but it's very wrong.
The Pope is the anti-Christ, & it carries an anti-Christ spirit. So therefore The anti-Christ will come out of the city that sits on 7 hills, which is ROME, & yes it is one of the beast in Revelation, Catholism is the mother of harlots,(Denominations) You have to know how to separate each beast in Revelation because part of that beast system is the EU.
This is just another attempt to interpret something that was written 2000 years ago. If you were meant to understand it, wouldn't god have been less ambiguous?
It is just another incoherent story in a book full of incompressible myths.
The word "beast" is in Revelation 44 times. Clearly the Roman church is not all of these! Some are worse than others. I believe it is true that anything that adds to the Scriptures is condemned in Scripture. It seems abundantly clear to me that "churchyard" includes sufficient paganism to ensure its final destination is the "lake of fire". Not only is "the beast" there, but also the "false prophet" (anything that makes a lie). I have withdrawn from all "organized religion" for I have not found one which is faithful to Scripture. I understand Scripture to be "The Word" which will judge us in the end. (Another name for the Messiah, who was The Word made flesh). Keep studying (Scripture) to show thyself approved. The Spirit of the Almighty has been promised to guide us into all truth.
The beasts are refers ft all rulers and kingdom of the worlds.....Religion is refer to the BABYLON.... THE GREAT HARLOT....she is the mother of false religion worldwide...she seats in many waters..
The fact is your name can be given a 666 equivalent. You have made sweeping statements and conclusions without any factual basis. Anyone can make up stories. The question is where is your evidence?
Good day!
It would be interesting if the Roman Catholic Church were the beast... considering it was the first form of Christianity to be practiced and all other forms of Christianity were born of Catholicism. That would make all forms of Christianity the beast, and that wouldn't make sense at all.
First came the Roman Catholics
Then there was a schism and the Eastern Orthodox were created. This didn't happen until the 11Th century.
Then there was another schism and the Protestants were created, which didn't happen until the 16Th century.
Then even among the Protestants there are a multitude of denominations, which of course happened after the 16Th century.
My point is that all of these forms of Christianity were born out of the original form of Christianity, centuries after Christ had already died. One could argue that Catholicism is the purest form of Christianity because it was the one practiced soonest after Christ's death and resurrection. The other ones didn't come around until much later. So it would be odd if the faith that started right after Christ's death was the beast.
The other way of looking at it is that the founders of all the other Christian faiths took their cues from Catholicism. Yes they were formed because of what the founders didn't like about Catholicism, but then it also stands to reason that they kept what parts of Catholicism suited them. So to call the Roman Catholic Church the beast is to also call all the other Christian denominations the beast because they all hold a kernel of the original church within them.
As for my own personal beliefs all forms of Christianity are just fine. One is no better than the other. The problem occurs when different denominations forget that we all agree on the same basic idea. This isn't an "us versus them" thing. It's people who make it an "us versus them" thing, not God.
P.S. I would suggest that all who still believe that Roman Catholics believe in idol worship take the time to learn a bit more about the faith, because that is not true. I would also suggest that all who believe that the Roman Catholics interweave Pagan holidays into their practices take a look at their own denominations first. This is part of the "taking a kernel from Catholicism" I am talking about. Catholicism placed the celebration of certain events in keeping with some Pagan holidays in order to convert more people. Hence, for example, Jesus' birthday being celebrated during December even though that is not when He was born. Notice that all the other Christian religions still celebrate Jesus' birthday in December. That is a tradition based on a Pagan holiday and non-Catholics had an opportunity to change that practice when breaking from the Roman Catholic Church and chose not to.
FANTASTIC question! Yes, I believe without doubt that the Roman Catholic Church is the culprit you are referring to. I loved all your knowledge on the worshiping of Mary as a way to get to Jesus (unbelievable) *Why would anyone need to pray to Mary in order for her to ask Jesus anything for us??? When Jesus has told us that He (and He alone) is our only Salvation!!! And that He waits for us to ask for HIM to come into our lives. A very interesting item to note is that Mary is not held with any esteem in the time that Jesus walked this earth. Even when she asked the disciples to tell Jesus that she was outside wanting to speak to Him, Jesus didn't rush out to receive her. Instead He continued teaching HIS Father's message. Not to say that she didn't have a very important position in executing the LORD's will to bring His son into human form, but there isn't anything in ANY scripture that tells us to bow down, kneel in reference or pray to her for anything!!! The Pope is another Satan inspired concoction that man has embraced and will be punished for if we don't repent and do away with all things that go against God! And if anyone wants to know what those things are its' simple first, read the Bible for yourself, it's the only way to understanding God's true character and HIS desires for us. A few wonderful places to get understanding into the Catholic infiltration into the true Christian church are the websites below very worth checking into.
Praise His Mighty Name, and May God Bless You!
No, your information is incorrect. The things you have been reading are in error.
Please do some research. You will find that you are incorrect on nearly all of the points of your post.
We do not use anyone as a substitute to praying to Jesus. catholics pray to God the Father and Son as well as praying to the saints to ask them to pray for us.
Honestly you are right, RCC is the Beast. I also researched that and all the evidence points to Catholics. I know many people may get offended but it is the truth. This is not a conclusion that I have reached on my own but evidence that is written in the Bible as well, the church which many people are in and they don't know their church is false, the only church which claims to forgive the sins of people, the church which prays to Mary Mother of Jesus. As the Bible says, "know the truth and the truth shall set you free", don't get offended cause you belong to that group, rather research and find the truth.......if you will accept it.