Roman Catholics: Why is there no mention of Peter being the Pope in the New Testament
The RCC claims that Peter was the first Pope of the Roman Catholic Church. Why is there no mention of this in the New Testament?
I know what the RCC "claims" about Peter being the first Pope.. What I want to know is why there is no mention of this in the New Testament..
By the way.. For you Bible scholars.. The "rock" that Christ was referring to in Matthew 16 is Peter's statement (not Peter)... "Thou art the Christ the Son of the living God".. This is the church's one foundation... Christ Himself!
defector; Sometimes the truth hurts.. especially when a person kicks against it...
Catholic;ICCYour non-answer is getting boring.. When will you at least try answering the question instead of cutting and pasting the same old propaganda?
Because the office of Pope wasn't instituted until almost 300 years after Peter's death. Until that time, Rome just had a Bishop like every other large city.
And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. Matthew 16:18
"Thou art rock, and upon this rock I shall build my Church." Jesus said that to Peter. Protestants decided they could interpret scripture, and thus changed the traditional interpretation of this verse.
As I mentioned in your other, elongated, version of this question, you need to go study, or even just read, your Bible, and you'd realize how wrong you are, and you'd even decide to become Roman Catholic. God Bless you.
If Peter "truly" was the pope, he would have powers and a wide group of followers. But no, he was NO pope, because he got hanged upside down by dirty Romans.
One day Jesus asked two questions to his disciples. The first: Who do men say that the Son of Man is? (Matthew 16:13). The second more personal "But you, who do you say that I am?" Do you believe what the people?s opinion are of him or do you have one of your own. In v.16 Peter spoke up and answered ?Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.? Jesus now turned to Peter and made a series of statements. One is where the revelation came from. Jesus tells him that God the Father reveled this to him, not man. V.18: ?And I also say unto thee, that thou art Peter (Cephas), and upon this rock I will build my church: and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it.?
he was given the keys of the kingdom, and the authority to govern, see Matt.16:17_20
as a good shepherd as in john 21:16-19. means being a father =papa =pope
Acts 15:7 And when there had been much disputing, Peter, rising up, said to them: Men, brethren, you know, that in former days God made choice among us, that by my mouth the Gentiles should hear the word of the gospel, and believe.
John 21:15 When therefore they had dined, Jesus saith to Simon Peter: Simon son of John, livest thou me more than these? He saith to him: Yea, Lord, thou know est that I love thee. He saith to him: Feed my lambs.
16 He saith to him again: Simon, son of John, livest thou me? He saith to him: Yea, Lord, thou know est that I love thee. He saith to him: Feed my lambs. 17 He said to him the third time: Simon, son of John, livest thou me? Peter was grieved, because he had said to him the third time: Lovest thou me? And he said to him: Lord, thou know est all things: thou know est that I love thee. He said to him: Feed my sheep.
Luke 22:31 And the Lord said: Simon, Simon, behold Satan hath desired to have you, that he may sift you as wheat: 32 But I have prayed for thee, that thy faith fail not: and thou, being once converted, confirm thy brethren.
Didn't the Jesus person say I call/name you Peter and upon this rock I shall build my church?
well, that's the basis, and to keep things literal, Simon Peter the Apostle is supposed to be interred under the basilica in the Vatican.
Just to save later argument, apparently Jesus also said to the Apostles in the Upper Room after the Resurrection-Whose sins you shall forgive they are forgiven-that is the basis for Confession/Sacrament of Reconciliation
could be all nonsense, that's what we learned in school
When they had finished breakfast, Jesus said to Simon Peter, "Simon, son of John, do you love me more than these?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Feed my lambs."
He then said to him a second time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" He said to him, "Yes, Lord, you know that I love you." He said to him, "Tend my sheep."
He said to him the third time, "Simon, son of John, do you love me?" Peter was distressed that he had said to him a third time, "Do you love me?" and he said to him, "Lord, you know everything; you know that I love you." (Jesus) said to him, "Feed my sheep.
Matthew 16:17-19 states:
Jesus said to him in reply, "Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah. For flesh and blood has not revealed this to you, but my heavenly Father. And so I say to you, you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of the netherworld shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven. Whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven; and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."
The Catholic Church believes the Lord made Simon alone, whom he named Peter, the "rock" of his Church. He gave him the keys of his Church and instituted him shepherd of the whole flock.
The Pope is the senior pastor of 1.1 billion Catholic Christians, the direct successor of Simon Peter.
The Pope?s main roles include teaching, sanctifying, and governing.
For more information, see the Catechism of the Catholic Church, section 880-882: http://www.usccb.org/catechism/text/pt1sect2chpt3art9p4.shtml#880
You read the Bible without understanding. If you are looking for the word "pope" in the Bible, you will not find it.
"Pope" (from Latin: papa; from Greek: SS'spas]), is an affectionate word for father. The title pope, once used with far greater latitude, is at present employed solely to denote the Bishop of Rome, who, in virtue of his position as successor of St. Peter, is the chief pastor of the whole Church, the Vicar of Christ upon earth.
The proof that Christ constituted St. Peter head of His Church (i.e. pope) is found in the two famous Petrine texts, Matthew 16:17-19, and John 21:15-17.
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@ your additional details:
< By the way.. For you Bible scholars.. The "rock" that Christ was referring to in Matthew 16 is Peter's statement (not Peter)... "Thou art the Christ the Son of the living God".. This is the church's one foundation... Christ Himself! >
That is the interpretation of heretics. The right interpretations is that the rock referred to by Christ is Peter.
"Thou art Peter [Cepha, transliterated also Kipha] and upon this rock [Cepha] I will build my Church."
The word for Peter and for rock in the original Aramaic is one and the same; this renders it evident that the various attempts to explain the term "rock" as having reference not to Peter himself but to something else are misinterpretations. It is Peter who is the rock of the Church. The term ElysiaIAekklesia) here employed is the Greek rendering of the Hebrew qahal, the name which denoted the Hebrew nation viewed as God's Church.
The early Christians knew that Peter is the rock referred to in Matt 16:18.
ORIGEN:
"Peter, upon whom is built the Church of Christ, against which the gates of hell shall not prevail, left only one epistle of acknowledged genuinity. Let us concede also a second, which however is doubtful." (Commentaries on John 5,3)
"Look upon the great foundation of the Church, that most solid of rocks, upon whom Christ built the Church! And what does the Lord say to him? 'O you of little faith,' He says, 'why did you doubt!'" (Homilies on Exodus 5,4)
AMBROSE:
"It is Peter himself that He says, "You are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church.' Where Peter is, there is the Church. And where the Church, no death is there, but life eternal." (Commentaries on Twelve of David's Psalms 40,30)
"Christ is the Rock, 'For they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them, and that Rock was Christ,' and He did not refuse to bestow the favour of this title even upon His disciple, so that he, too, might be Peter [or, Rock], in that he has from the Rock a solid constancy, a firm faith." (Expos. in Luc.)
HILARY OF POTIERS:
"Blessed Simon, who after his confession of the mystery was set to be the foundation-stone of the Church, and received the keys to the kingdom of heaven." (On the Trinity, 20, NPNF2, 9:105)
Roman Catholics: Why is there no mention of Peter being the Pope in the New Testament
