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Old 07-25-2010, 07:07 AM
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Default What if the old Roman Catholic Church had failed?

Assuming Christianity would still be around, don't you think it would be a lot different?
The Bible wouldn't be formed of the same comp elation. It would most likely be the Ethiopean Orthodox Bible, or other Coptic/gnostic versions.
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Old 07-29-2010, 07:07 AM
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What if?
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Old 08-02-2010, 07:07 AM
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Fortunately it didn't fail.

Cheers :-)
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Old 08-05-2010, 07:07 AM
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good point. while many have little or no respect for the roman catholic church they are all indebted to it. whether you agree with what the church teaches at least acknowledge that the church preserved the bible for future generations.
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Old 08-07-2010, 07:07 AM
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If the Church had failed it would have proved Jesus a liar and false prophet. There would be no Christianity.

In Christ
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Old 08-10-2010, 07:07 AM
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Yes everyone would be gnostic. It's okay though, as per God's plan, it's going that way, Christianity as known now won't be around in the next several hundred years. By then, everyone will know God is WITHIN YOU, as we are evolving spiritually and more and more are awakening every day!
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Old 08-15-2010, 07:07 AM
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Why would the old Roman Catholic Church have failed? I'm glad it didn't.
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Old 08-17-2010, 07:07 AM
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It has turned out the way it was supposed to, the catholic church was to be the dominating presence it is.
To say what if Christianity would still be around?
Look into the bible it says the catholic church would sit on may waters and control this world.
It has almost 1/4 of the worlds population as converts.
The largest and most powerful by far.

Rome was opposed to the early church, they had quite different beliefs than what Christ had.
I truly doubt that the Ethiopian Orthodox bible would be the most used.
It would still be the King James version.

If a person believes in God do they also believe he is in charge of things?
and are things going according to his plan or is the devil winning the battle?
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Old 08-20-2010, 07:07 AM
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That's an interesting question. I'm sure it would be very different. I don't know anything about Ethiopean Orthodox Christianity, but Christianity itself would most likely be VERY different. I don't know how it would be.
It may not have gotten all caught up in the politics of Rome at the time.
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Old 08-24-2010, 07:07 AM
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Great question! The old Roman Catholic church was formed under Constantine in the 4Th century. Prior to that, Jesus' disciples and the early church fathers believed that salvation was by grace alone, that their was only heaven and hell, and that Christ was the only intercessor man/woman needed to know God personally. The Catholic church brought us Mary as an intercessor (a human), get out of hell free cards through purgatory as well as giving priests the ability to forgive sins and whole slew of other doctrine that is actually not found in the Bible. The Catholic church also played a majority role in the crusades.

So, if the old Catholic Church had failed we'd hopefully have Christianity more like the way it started, but God is good and He is in control whether I like the way that history has gone or not.

Regardless, all of us have sinned and fall short of the glory of God. Jesus said that if we've been angry with someone it's the same as murdering them or if we've ever lusted after someone that was not ours it's the same as adultery. We all must face God on judgment day, if you haven't already recognize that God has appointed this day and if you cry out to God and confess your sins believing that Jesus is real He will save you. You'll love the things you once hated, and hate the things you once loved.
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Old 08-25-2010, 07:07 AM
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Everyone forgets that the Church was formed on Pentecost in 33 AD - 50 days after the Resurrection of Christ and 10 days after Christ ascended into Heaven.

The Roman Catholic Church established her identity in 1054 following the Great Schism to differentiate herself from the Eastern Orthodox Churches.

Catholic means Universal and the Universal Church was established in AD 33 - Constantine did nothing more but to legalize the Universal Church as the official religion of the Roman Empire and the 1st Ecumenical Council established the Nicene Creed and the books of the Old and New Testaments.

A Professor of Religion at Boston University wishes that people would learn more about the world's religions. The Catholic Church was part of the Universal Church before separating themselves in 1054 AD. The Eastern Orthodox faith is the only faith which can trace herself back to Pentecost as the Universal Church - plan and simple.

To answer your question, if this "old Roman Catholic Church" was heretical and failed for that reason - then why have this discussion?
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