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Old 04-03-2010, 09:59 AM
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Default Satanism a subset of Christianity?

If Christians invented this concept of the devil, Satan, Lucifer, etc. don't you have to be a Christian first to devil-worship?

There is no devil character in Wicca for instance.
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Old 04-04-2010, 09:59 AM
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of course.

Ive met my share of satanists on line, a few in real life, all the ones Ive met so far are basically satanists to rebel against Christians. no not god, not Jesus or any character in the bible...they do it to rebel against Christianity. they dislike Christianity so they re going to go with the polar opposite of it. and since atheism isn't enough the yd rather side with Christianity's arch nemesis....satan.

i doubt there are many people out there who actually believe satan exists....excluding the christians!!!!!

so i think its safe to say that more christians beleive in satan than satanists!

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Old 04-06-2010, 09:59 AM
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Satanism does not believe in nor worship the devil--he is simply used as symbolic of their ideals of freedom

So take that as you may in relation to your question. I can see it, but Satanism is an atheistic religion.

ETA: First, as I stated, Satanists do not believe in Satan; second, it is a misconception that atheists do not believe in any supernatural beings. Some may not, but the word "atheist" simply means "without god". Buddhism also is an atheistic religion, and a Buddhist will tell you there is no supreme being...but try telling them that there are no supernatural beings. They believe in far more of them than Satanists do.
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Old 04-08-2010, 09:59 AM
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Pretty much yes as most religions have no concept of hell or a devil.

And to the person above, atheists do not believe in any supernatural beings.. your statements makes no sense.
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Old 04-11-2010, 09:59 AM
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Yes. Satanism is Christian heresy with Christian theology. Wicca has no place in it. Wicca has about as much to do with devil-worship as Christianity has to do with Wicca.
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Old 04-14-2010, 09:59 AM
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Pretty much. That's why worship ping Satan doesn't make sense, when there is such an obviously better option.
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Old 04-18-2010, 09:59 AM
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there are plenty of references to contrary spirits in every religion, they have different names, but similar characteristics
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Old 04-21-2010, 09:59 AM
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Not at all. Satanism is dedicated to the philosophy of Objectivism, which maintains that the good of the group is best supported by the self-interest of the individual. Because this concept is personified as Satan in popular culture, the satanists adopted the term. Most (if not all) satanists reject Christianity wholesale, devil and all.
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Old 04-26-2010, 09:59 AM
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No, as many sects before Christianity had beliefs in hellish abodes and demons.
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Old 04-28-2010, 09:59 AM
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Nope, because the devil (Lucifer) exists no matter what you believe. He doesn't seek our worship either. He just wants to destroy any chance of us starting up a relationship with the Creator.
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Old 05-01-2010, 09:59 AM
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The further you get into Wicca, the further you will move into darkness. The further you move into darkness, the more hostile you may become to Christianity, the idea of the cross and it's sacrifice, etc. Oftentimes those who are involved in occult practices develop an attraction for dark things, the nighttime, skulls, various forms of rebellion, dark clothing, and a desire for power. These things are the fingerprints of the enemy that gradually overtake a person involved in occult practices. Have you been touched by the enemy? Do you desire these things? If so, have you been touched by the darkness?
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Old 05-04-2010, 09:59 AM
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That may be true about Wicca, but many pagan religions have a demon in their theology and a snake or dragon is held in sacred status in some of these. Satan is mentioned many times in the Hebrew scriptures and in Genesis , he is prophesied to be crushed by a seed.
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Old 05-06-2010, 09:59 AM
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OK first of all, this "concept of the devil " is real. you really need to go to church once in a while or something.OK. to become Christian, you have to believe that Jesus Chrst died on the cross for your sin. then you have to FOLLOW him and his word (the bible). so people might be live in Jesus, but they still go to hell
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Old 05-11-2010, 09:59 AM
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while there is no SATAN /devil in witchcraft, Paganism, Wicca there is still the acknowledgment of evil in the world.
SATANISM( devil is a follower of SATAN ) came with the Jewish O.T. into the Christian Religion as it is a Sept of Judaism.A continuation and fulfillment of the O.T.
Please remember that it is still ST. LUCIFER it was only the Christian Church that took away the ST. part when they needed a evil character to fill the role of the leader of one of the levels of Hell . When they started the AS ABOVE , SO BELOW structure. nine levels of each.
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Old 05-12-2010, 09:59 AM
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Technically, Satanism is as much a subset of Christianity as anti-mason ism is a subset of the Free Masons.

Satanism was founded on the principle of being anti-Christian, and more specifically, anti-catholic. The Church of Satanism was founded by Anton LaVey, inspired by the works of a cultist named John Crowley, and outside of the Sovient Union, is about as extreme and intolerant as Atheism can get.

See, from what I've learned of Satanism, Satan isn't literally a creature of evil and darkness. No, Satan is simply a symbol, and ideal, and the ultimate manifestation of everything Christianity is not. He's not real, he's not literal, but he is symbolic and held in reverence nonetheless.
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Old 05-16-2010, 09:59 AM
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Yes, it is a sect of Christianity.
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Old 05-20-2010, 09:59 AM
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Exactly. To be a devil worshiper you have to first believe in the Devil, which is a Christian creation. Therefore, you have to be a Christian to worship the Devil. In my experience Devil worshipers are those that are pissed at Christianity and are thus rebelling against it, and are trying to prove a point through shock value by being the "anti-Christian".
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Old 05-23-2010, 09:59 AM
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As mentioned, Satanists generally don't worship Satan as a being, any more than Taoists think there is a god called "Tao."

And theistic Satanists--traditionally called "devil worshipers"--are no more a "subset of Christians" than Christians are a "subset of Jews."

We don't call Christianity or Islam sects of Judaism. Having some of the same religious history doesn't make people members of the same religion. Even using the same scriptures (which Satanists *don't* do) doesn't make them members of the same religion.

While there is no "supreme evil" deity in Wicca, that doesn't mean the Horned God is not "the devil" He embodies many traits that Christian doctrine define as "evil;" that Wiccans don't think those are evil doesn't change the Christian interpretation. I think it's very silly of Wiccans to get upset over what some other religion thinks about their deities.
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