How can a country allow Satanism and KKK Organisations ?
Forbidden Satanism and KKK Organizations to exist is not to forbidden freedom - is to protect life. My question is strictly regarding the level of sickness in a society ... To be normal and to be tolerant is not about allowing Big Groups to Hate and take action against black people .... To be normal and to be tolerant is not about allowing Satanism to grow and promote chaos and anarchy in the world (Murder, Worship Satan and Chaos are values to be practice by sick and disturbed people) .... To be normal and to be tolerant is not about allowing every human in the country to buy guns (from the age of 16) ... Did U know (and search the Internet for that information) that approximately 11.000 people /in 2006 died in USA by gun shot. In Europe approximately 300 people died by gun shot in 2006. So ?! Whys that ? Because Americans are more violent than Europeans ? No. Because you have more guns. Simple as that.
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@Miranda - I'm not saying to exterminate people here. All I'm saying is that we can make the difference between "good and evil" - Carmon you telling me that to be in KKK is Ike ?!
@Occam'sPig - I don't have anything against Americans man. How America will be after 100 years ? Bang Bang I shot U down. Oooo you're walking on my street, bang MFA. U nigger' you're too black ... bang ...)
@star jumper - In America a gun probably make's you a "man" - probably gives you balls and illusion of safety. Americans don't know the way of the sword ?! Most of them heard about Alexander the Great from the lastest movie with C.Farrel.
@sweety_atspacecase0 - You know nothing about history sugar. You compare Europe with America in matters of WAR ?! LooooooL - When Amerigo Vespucci discover America (and not Columb) - Red Skins where the true people of this land (Maya Culture), they where true warrior - New Amsterdam, as New York was called those days, was populate by the emigrants from Europe, 600 years ago
Oh, I don't know... the first amendment? Why do we allow organized religion? Hmm?
Christianity regularly discriminates against gay people and invaded our government, forcing gays to have less rights than the rest of us. That sounds like a hate group to me!
Religious scholars have long attributed the tenets of Christian faith more to Paul?s teachings than to those of Jesus. But as much as I would like to jump into that subject, I think it best to back up and take a quick, speculative look at the Old Testament.
The Old Testament teaches that Jacob wrestled with God. In fact, the Old Testament records that Jacob not only wrestled with God, but that Jacob prevailed (Genesis 32:24-30). Now, bear in mind, we?re talking about a tiny blob of protoplasm wrestling the Creator of a universe 240,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles in diameter, containing over a billion galaxies of which ours?the Milky Way Galaxy?is just one (and a small one, at that), and prevailing? I?m sorry, but someone was a couple pages short of a codex when they scribed that passage. The point is, however, that this passage leaves us in a quandary. We either have to question the Jewish concept of God or accept their explanation that ?God? does not mean ?God? in the above verses, but rather it means either an angel or a man (which, in essence, means the Old Testament is not to be trusted). In fact, this textual difficulty has become so problematic that more recent Bibles have tried to cover it up by changing the translation from ?God? to ?man.? What they cannot change, however, is the foundational scripture from which the Jewish Bible is translated, and this continues to read ?God.?
Unreliability is a recurring problem in the Old Testament, the most prominent example being the confusion between God and Satan! II Samuel 24:1 reads:
?Again the anger of the LORD was aroused against Israel, and He moved David against them to say, ?Go, number Israel and Judah.??
However, I Chronicles 21:1 states: ?Now Satan stood up against Israel, and moved David to number Israel.?
Uhhh, which was it? The Lord, or Satan? Both verses describe the same event in history, but one speaks of God and the other of Satan. There is a slight (like, total) difference.
Christians would like to believe that the New Testament is free of such difficulties, but they are sadly deceived. In fact, there are so many contradictions that authors have devoted books to this subject. For example, Matthew 2:14 and Luke 2:39 differ over whether Jesus? family fled to Egypt or Nazareth. Matthew 6:9-13 and Luke 11:2-4 differ over the wording of the ?Lord?s Prayer.? Matthew 11:13-14, 17:11-13 and John 1:21 disagree over whether or not John the Baptist was Elijah.
Things get worse when we enter the arena of the alleged crucifixion: Who carried the cross?Simon (Luke 23:26, Matthew 27:32, Mark 15:21) or Jesus (John 19:17)? Was Jesus dressed in a scarlet robe (Matthew 27:28) or a purple robe (John 19:2)? Did the Roman soldiers put gall (Matthew 27:34) or myrrh (Mark 15:23) in his wine? Was Jesus crucified before the third hour (Mark 15:25) or after the sixth hour (John 19:14-15)? Did Jesus ascend the first day (Luke 23:43) or not (John 20:17)? Were Jesus? last words, ?Father, ?into Your hands I commit my spirit?? (Luke 23:46), or were they ?It is finished? (John 19:30)?
These are only a few of a long list of scriptural inconsistencies, and they underscore the difficulty in trusting the New Testament as scripture. Nonetheless, there are those who do trust their salvation to the New Testament, and it is these Christians who need to answer the question, ?Where is the ?Christ? in ?Christianity?? ?This, in fact, is a supremely fair question. On one hand we have a religion named after Jesus Christ, but on the other hand the tenets of orthodox Christianity, which is to say Trinitarian Christianity, contradict virtually everything he taught.
I know, I know?those of you who arena?t screaming ?Heretic!? are gathering firewood and planting a stake. But wait. Put down the high-powered rifle and listen. Trinitarian Christianity claims to base its doctrines on a combination of Jesus? and Paul?s teachings. The problem is, these teachings are anything but complementary. In fact, they contradict one another.
Take some examples: Jesus taught Old Testament Law; Paul negated it. Jesus preached orthodox Jewish creed; Paul preached mysteries of faith. Jesus spoke of accountability; Paul proposed justification by faith. Jesus described himself as an ethnic prophet; Paul defined him as a universal prophet.[1] Jesus taught prayer to God, Paul set Jesus up as intercessor. Jesus taught divine unity, Pauline theologians constructed the Trinity.
For these reasons, many scholars consider Paul the main corrupter of Apostolic Christianity and Jesus? teachings. Many early Christian sects held this view as well, including the second-century Christian sects known as ?abortionists?? ?In particular, they considered Paul, one of the most prominent authors of our New Testament, to be an arch-heretic rather than an apostle.?[2]
Lehmann contributes:
?What Paul proclaimed as ?Christianity? was sheer heresy which could not be based on the Jewish or Essene faith, or on the teaching of Rabbi Jesus. But, as Schonfield says, ?The Pauline heresy became the foundation of Christian orthodoxy and the legitimate church was disowned as heretical.? ? Paul did something that Rabbi Jesus never did and refused to do. He extended God?s promise of salvation to the Gentiles; he abolished the law of Moses, and he prevented direct access to God by introducing an intermediary.?[3]
Bart D. Ehrman, perhaps the most authoritative living scholar of textual criticism, comments:
?Paul?s view was not universally accepted or, one might argue, even widely accepted ?. Even more striking, Paul?s own letters indicate that there were outspoken, sincere, and active Christian leaders who vehemently disagreed with him on this score and considered Paul?s views to be a corruption of the true message of Christ ?. One should always bear in mind that in this very letter of Galatians Paul indicates that he confronted Peter over just such issues (Gal. 2:11-14). He disagreed, that is, even with Jesus? closest disciple on the matter.?[4]
Commenting on the views of some early Christians in the Pseudo-Clementine literature, Ehrman wrote:
?Paul has corrupted the true faith based on a brief vision, which he has doubtless misconstrued. Paul is thus the enemy of the apostles, not the chief of them. He is outside the true faith, a heretic to be banned, not an apostle to be followed.?[5]
Others elevate Paul to sainthood. Joel Carmichael very clearly is not one of them:
?We are a universe away from Jesus. If Jesus came ?only to fulfill? the Law and the Prophets; If he thought that ?not an iota, not a dot? would ?pass from the Law,? that the cardinal commandment was ?Hear, O Israel, the Lord Our God, the Lord is one,? and that ?no one was good but God??.What would he have thought of Paul?s handiwork! Paul?s triumph meant the final obliteration of the historic Jesus; he comes to us embalmed in Christianity like a fly in amber.?[6]
Dr. Johannes Weiss contributes:
?Hence the faith in Christ as held by the primitive churches and by Paul was something new in comparison with the preaching of Jesus; it was a new type of religion.?[7]
A new type of religion, indeed. And hence the question, ?Where is the ?Christ? in ?Christianity?? ?If Christianity is the religion of Jesus Christ, where are the Old Testament laws and strict monotheism of the Rabbi Jesus? Orthodox Judaism? Why does Christianity teach that Jesus is the son of God when Jesus called himself the ?son of Man? eighty-eight times, and not once the ?son of God?? Why does Christianity endorse confession to priests and prayers to saints, Mary and Jesus when Jesus taught his followers:
?In this manner, therefore, pray: ?Our Father ??? (Matthew 6:9)?
And who appointed a pope? Certainly not Jesus. True, he may have called Peter the rock upon which he would build his church (Matthew 16:18-19). However, a scant five verses later, he called Peter ?Satan? and ?an offense.? And let us not forget that this ?rock? thrice denied Jesus after Jesus? arrest?poor testimony of Peter?s commitment to the new church.
Is it possible that Christians have been denying Jesus ever since? Transforming Jesus? strict monotheism to the Pauline theologians? Trinity, replacing Rabbi Jesus? Old Testament law with Paul?s ?justification by faith,? substituting the concept of Jesus having atoned for the sins of mankind for the direct accountability Jesus taught, discarding Jesus? claim to humanity for Paul?s concept of Jesus having been divine, we have to question in exactly what manner Christianity respects the teachings of its prophet.
A parallel issue is to define which religion does respect Jesus? teachings. So let?s see: Which religion honors Jesus Christ as a prophet but a man? Which religion adheres to strict monotheism, God?s laws, and the concept of direct accountability to God? Which religion denies intermediaries between man and God?
If you answered, ?Islam,? you would be right. And in this manner, we find the teachings of Jesus Christ better exemplified in the religion of Islam than in Christianity. This suggestion, however, is not meant to be a conclusion, but rather an introduction. Those who find their interest peaked by the above discussion need to take the issue seriously, open their minds and then ? read on!
America is a free society. You can exist as long as you don't break the law. Plain and simple. Some people are allergic to cats. Does that mean would should euthanize them all? Some people hate Jews. Should we exterminate them, too? That is the price for living in a free society. You must tolerate others so that they will in turn tolerate you.
And just how many wars have been started by Satanists? I still can't figure out what your beef is, do you dislike hate groups? me too, I dislike the "Moral Majority" the Catholic Church, Southern Baptist convention, and sister groups like the KKK etc.. Or are you a gun hater?.. could you perhaps split your questions into differing groups? Is this a religion question? Or is it just Americans you can't stand? I am American and I can't stand us sometimes...
The last time I saw the news we don't have soccer hooligans either...
An armed society is a polite society. I am a Gun to tin atheist, imagine a country like this with armed intolerant Christians running the show..... Scary...
I don't know. I live in Greece, where guns are normal as wearing shoes, (Crete) and tempers are hotter than anywhere I've ever seen. Still, there are not many deaths here related to guns. Maybe Americans are 'repressed' in the sense that their emotions are so cloaked to fit into that society that they take out their aggression in other ways?
your funny,
Americans are violent because it is our culture, take my guns away and I will use a base ball bat with spikes sticking out of it.
look up the numbers on how many people die in Great Britten by razor blade and base ball bats, I like the guns, at least they make noise.
and remember that your question started with freedom of religion, and if it is free, then you will get every type of group is out there,
if you filter what can and can not be in a country, then you no longer have separate church and state.
guns have nothing to do with it.
first and foremost do some more research , more people die in auto accidents than any other method ,so we should ban all cars to solve this Delmar. as far as satanism and the KKK if you can ban them than you can ban any group religious or otherwise.they have the constitutional right to exist as do you with your religious and or color belief es ,the main issue in this country is there must be a national death penalty for murder and no exceptions,no bleeding heart liberal isms.and one other thing .if you do demographics on scion cultural historical crime trends ,you will find that an alarming rate of crime is and has all ways been perpetuated by the minority groups. 20% of the population commits approximately 85% of the crimes.give or take a few percent. just research the federal prison system !
Actually those 300 is mostly in Eastern European countries where people can find guns easily. In western Europe gun is forbidden. So nobody dies easily for some silly anger. Old Greeks call it civilization. When civilians do not die because of anger of some silly men then it's called civilization. They call other tribes barbaric.
11000 died by gun shot in one year???
Wooww. That's I call stupid. Then why you made all the fuss when you lost much less because of terrorism ???? Yeees, I see it must be American to kill American. If an Arab become American citizen and kills 10 American, that's OK ! Yes. What a rational. Actually all Americans have different origins. It looks like people from Asia, Europe, Africa, everywhere goes to USA to kill each other. And the GREENCARD is actually a "LICENCE TO KILL". If an Arab does not have a license to kill, then its called TERORISM. What'a logic.
Then whole nation goes to war because of an external terrorism. All nation work hard and pay taxes to raise 200 billions dollars each year to support troops in the war, where actually they cannot even save 1 of 11,000 killed internally each year. If USA give green card to all Arab terrorists, then terrorism can even stop. Because they can come to USA to kill couple of people, whenever they wish. Like white people once went to Safari !!!
11000 dead, I bet another 11000 wounded, and possibly 5-10 thousand go to jail... With this speed you will either end up in second civil-war (or we call it barbarian-war?) or destroy yourself for the love of gun...
And you call this freedom, democracy and civilization... Phewws... May I call it capital stupidity.
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Satanism is harmless. It is deluded people pursuing a meaningless life. The KKK is patently evil, and as a group is sociopathICCnd a real threat to internal security.
Despite all of the propaganda thrown out there by the NRA the truth is obvious. A society that not only permits, but encourages, gun ownership is a more violent society. Most of the gun owners in the USA have absolutely no legitimate reason to possess these weapons. Defence is not an argument if everyone doesn't own guns. Most deaths due to guns are domestics or accidents, not caused by criminals.
Sure, people kill people, but if you make it more difficult for them they kill a lot less.
For the love of everything, PLEASE stop bunching Satanism together with coltish brainwashing groups, hate groups and murderers!
Satanism, as a belief system, has nothing to do with the KKK. Certain individuals may choose to be involved in such, but the belief system itself is not. Murder, violence and hatred are also NOT part of Satanism. That's like saying all Muslims are terrorists.
Modern Satanists are atheistic in nature and see Satan as a symbol for personal power and liberation, wisdom, pleasure... etc. Theistic Satanists have different branches, but most believe that Satan is not evil/is Prue-christian/etc. It's about truth, knowledge and self-empowerment. Not eating babies and killing kittens.
I myself am a Theistic Satanist, and I detest the KKK and racism in general. I do not advocate murder or violence. I do advocate freedom, truth and knowledge.
Because it is easy to deal when you have organizations that hate Black people or Worship satanist it is more easy to track their crimes and control them.. if there where no organizations like Satanism and KKK ,other. it would release many dangerous people around whole country . at least when they are organized they have a place that they can express their emotions and thoughts .About the guns Canada have about 7 million guns in their country for 5 million people. most of the people have hunting traditions. But only 165 people die from gun shots in Canada for a year . summarize Guns don't kill people . People do.
America is advanced politics. The everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, Even if that opinion is threatening. And the phrase "to allow" well who will do the 'allowing'. Citizens of a state (country) all have the power to cast their vote to the beliefs they hold dear, even if it is grotesque to the rest of us. To allow them their undisputed freedoms, ensures that no one will disputed the freedoms of others. And if you are a Christian, then fight bad with good, and uprightness. Everyone will eventually give an accounting to his or her Maker. Until then, suffer Liberty.
Let me start by saying your conclusions are simply wrong! The United States is built on freedom of religion. It is the First Amendment to the Constitution. This country was established by people who sought to free themselves from the tyranny of the English King George III. America is based on the man-given right to believe in whatever religion one chooses. And this has NOTHING to do with gun control.
I am a Satanist, and damn proud of it! I have been a devotee of the Dark Lord for two decades, and to date have killed no one. I do not own a gun, nor does Satan dictate that I should. I find it quite offensive that you assume merely being a Satanist means I am required by my Master to kill. Yes, I do not deny there are some who do murder in the name of Satan, but these people are NOT Satanists, and do not follow the teachings of the Dark Lord. I would say you speak with absolutely no knowledge of the subject, otherwise your question would not be so ill-informed. There are many websites devoted to teaching the Dark Lord's wisdom which may serve you well if you are willing to open your mind to them. I do not ask you to believe, only to educate yourself. You may start with my own MySpace page: my space.com/blackleather666. From there, you can connect with some of my on line friends who also practice Satanism. They, in turn, can put you in touch with others who will gladly answer your questions. Are you strong enough to do this?
I cannot speak to the KKK, not being a member and not agreeing with their philosophy. But, as an American, I have to respect their right to exist and to follow their own beliefs, just as I would ask them (and you) to respect mine. Just as I respect yours, whether or not I agree with them. If any member of the KKK, or any Satanist, for that matter, crosses the line of the law, there are people specifically trained to bring about fair justice for their crimes.
If you think, after reading this, that I fall into your very generalized category of "sick and disturbed," then I can only say you are too closed to the world around you, and this attitude will not serve you in life.
How can a country allow Satanism and KKK Organisations ?
