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Old 05-03-2010, 06:19 AM
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Default Do liberals prefer Scientology or Christianity?

Do liberals prefer Scientology or Christianity?
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Old 05-05-2010, 06:19 AM
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Old 05-07-2010, 06:19 AM
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no, neither (the other one should be Christology)
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Old 05-11-2010, 06:19 AM
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Old 05-12-2010, 06:19 AM
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Well Scientology does have more celebrities endorsing it, so it must be true!

They are both rubbish.
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Old 05-14-2010, 06:19 AM
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That's a generalistICCuestion. Liberals, like conservatives, follow many different faiths.
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Old 05-17-2010, 06:19 AM
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Well in the United States, a majority of the public voted Democratic during the last election, which is the liberal party. The country is 80% Christian, so I guess that means that a lot of Christians are liberals.
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Old 05-20-2010, 06:19 AM
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Personally this liberal prefers neither.

I dislike Christianity because it so engulfs the being of a person that they let it take the wheel when making political and legislative decisions. Those decisions based on personal religious doctrine and morality effect my life. They effect the way I have to live and the decisions I'm permitted (and not permitted) to legally make. This country in which I live is NOT in the business of legislating based solely on morality (this is according to Justice Sandra Day O'Connor) and yet that's exactly what happens when Christians can't (and won't) separate their spirituality from matters of secular law.

Scientology, on the other hand, is a manipulative, dangerous, greedy cult. It doesn't have the numbers or national influence of Christianity but it certainly does it's fair share of damage. Consider the following atrocities and crimes of which Scientology is guilty:

? Operation Snow White ? Under this program, Scientology operatives committed infiltration, wiretapping, and theft of documents in government offices. This program constituted the single largest infiltration of the United States government in history. Among the 11 prominent Scientologists convicted of this conspiracy was Mary Sue Hubbard, the wife of Scientology?s ?prophet?.
http://lisatrust.freewinds.cx/scientology/snow-white/index.html

? Operation Freakout - Their campaign of sabotage and violence against Paulette Cooper, the writer who published her research and findings on several cults, including Scientology. Scientology?s official plan: to frame Paulette, ruin her career and reputation and get her sent either to jail or psychiatric confinement.
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Krasel/cooper/frk1.html

? Fair Game - the Scientology policy detailing how the organization may confront and handle critics and perceived enemies. Here is a direct quote: "Enemies may be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed.?
http://www.xenu.net/archive/disk/fairgame.htm

? Violent Kidnapping - Lisa McPherson was a Scientologist, was involved in a car accident and resultantLyecame mentally unstable, was kidnapped by agents of Scientology, held against her will, refused proper psychiatric treatment and was allowed to STARVE TO DEATH.
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/

? Jeremy Perkins - A CBS ?48 Hours? special on the mentally disturbed son of Scientologist parents who refused to put him on the anti-psychotic drugs that would have stabilized him & prevented him from killing his own mother.
http://www.scientomogy.com/jeremy_perkins.php
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Old 05-24-2010, 06:19 AM
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This liberal doesn't much like either. Can I have another choice?
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Old 05-28-2010, 06:19 AM
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What makes you think that "liberals" as a group prefer the same thing? That sounds a little small-minded to me.
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Old 05-29-2010, 06:19 AM
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Liberals do not prefer any religion, true liberals are Atheist
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Old 06-03-2010, 06:19 AM
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Two plates of crap. Sounds like an election to me.
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Old 06-05-2010, 06:19 AM
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Why must democrats fight over what they clam they do not believe.
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Old 06-10-2010, 06:19 AM
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Gee that's an obvious answer
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Old 06-11-2010, 06:19 AM
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Most liberals are Christian.
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Old 06-15-2010, 06:19 AM
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Is a liberal anyone who doesn't like bush? in that case most libs prefer Christianity.
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Old 06-19-2010, 06:19 AM
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Old 06-23-2010, 06:19 AM
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Chritianity. Scientology says that Homosexuality is a mental illness.
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:19 AM
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Usually liberals are beholding to no one. So I would say that they are probably Agnostic.
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Old 06-25-2010, 06:19 AM
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What a bizarre choice you offer!

I can do the same thing: Do libertarians prefer watermelons or honeydews?

GO back to school, dude-IE do dude!
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Old 06-30-2010, 06:19 AM
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By using the word,"liberal", to label people, I'd bet you that you're a Christian. Am I wrong?
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Old 07-05-2010, 06:19 AM
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I am both a liberal and an atheist, but I greatly prefer Christianity to Scientology. Actually, Christianity in itself is a pretty cool religion; it is unfortunate that some of its followers reflect poorly on it.
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Old 07-07-2010, 06:19 AM
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I don't know.

THIS IS SCIENTOLOGY

1. What is true for you is what you yourself observe to be true.

2. Man is his spirit not his mind or his body.

3. The spirit creates his own mind. Please, do not confuse the mind with the brain that is a physical thing. The mind is composed of mental image pictures as explained in Dianetics. These pictures serve the spirit to give him knowledge and experience. These pictures are composed of energy. The energy in the picture can affect the spirit. You can feel better by remembering something that you like or angry by remembering something else. These emotions are actually energy waves emanated by the picture. You can actually feel pain by remembering a pain memory. Sometimes these pictures are accompanied by ideas or considerations. Lets suppose that you father beat you mom up in front of you. Your father was the dominating figure so you might conclude that you have to act like your father in some situations. This is what we call on Scientology an aberration (a conclusion that is imposed to you by a mental picture). This picture is what we call a engram (a pain memory that affects your judgment and free will).

4. You can discharge the energy in these pictures through communication. This is Dianetics Auditing and is the oldest of hundreds of Scientology techniques used to improve the individual.

5. The Spirit creates his own emotions. Are you happy? Are you sad? Are you depress? Maybe you think that something external of you is creating your emotions. Maybe you believe that you are sad because you had a bad day or maybe you believe that you are happy because you had a great day. And this might be true. But who made the decision that you had a good or bad day? You did. You decided if life was good or bad, and adjusted your emotions to respond to your own consideration. You created your own emotion.
Some people are born with everything they want and are still unhappy. And others are born into humble means and are happy. What's the difference? The only real difference is each person's ideas and considerations.
Scientology uses hundreds of processes in order to help a person get a better understanding and a better outlook in life by using his own observations.

6. Scientology Ethics. Ethical people take full responsibility for their actions. Un-ethical people blame others for their actions. "Wrong doings" diminish and deteriorate the freedom of the spirit because the need to justify the "wrong doing". So the spirit is enslaved into repeating the "wrong doing" in order to justify the original "wrong doing". The road to freedom lies within taking full responsibility for your personal condition and actions, past, present and future. Scientology provides the tools to help the person able to be fully responsible over his life thus rehabilitating his ability to be good and self determined.
Also Scientologist base their conduct on a non-denominational code of conduct. http://twth.org/eb/?id=16664j

7. Scientology and God. Scientology acknowledges the supreme being and promotes the individual search for closeness to God trough religion.

8. Scientology vs Psychiatry. Psychiatry believes that self awareness, feelings, love and faith is merely cellular activity. Basically they think that you are your brain and you are not in charge of your behavior but your cells are.This is a totally materialistic point of view that denies the spirit and God. Psychiatrist is a pseudo science because it is based in principles that are false. Psychiatry have never pr oven that any "mental illnesses" (like they call it) has any connection with a physical illness. Any Neurologist will tell you there are no medical test to identify a "mental illness". All Psychiatrists base their diagnosis on opinion and opinion alone.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3895596783332855545&q=Psychiatry+i s+fraude&hl=enhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8443414209115892468&q=scientology& hl=en
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?p=cchr&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&b=1&oid=12085d1e6c58d04e&rurl=video.yahoo.com&vd one=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fvideo% 3Fp%3Dcchr%26toggle%3D1%26cop%3Dmss%26ei%3DUTF-8
Happiness, exhilaration, depression and psychosis are states of mind, not diseases. All what you have to do to stop being depress is change your state of mind. How you do that? By changing your ideas and considerations. Scientology provides the tools to achieve a better state of mind in accordance with your own point of view.
Also Psychiatrist excuse the most horrendous crimes as mental illnesses. This is actually creates a sense of irresponsibility in society because it tells people that they are not responsible for their actions. Second they promote that drugs are the answer for your problems. This message promotes the use of drugs to find release from life and creates the current drug addiction problem in society. Drugs will only give you temporary false release but will never solve the source of your problems.And actually drugs will keep you away from finding a true spiritual release.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4437051883726295326&q=psychiatry&hl=en
Note: Scientology doesn't have anything against Psychology or Neurology. Also the mere awareness that you are a spiritual being and not a body makes you better person.

9. Scientology is a force for good in society. Scientologist fights Psychiatric abuses, http://www.cchr.org/ dangerous and harmful drugs, criminality, http://www.criminon.org and drug addiction. http://www.narconon.org Also Scientology fought and won against the FDA and the IRS. And Scientologist initiated the social reform group "Youth for Human Rights" http://www.youthforhumanrights.org and the movement "Say no to drugs and yes to life". http://www.notodrugs-yestolife.org
Scientologist are some of the more intelligent, able and successful people in this planet. Including Jenna Elfman, Kelly Preston, John Travolta, Priscilla Presley, Sofia Milos and Leah Remini. Even Danny Masterson from the that's That '70s Show is a Scientologist.

10. Scientology is the only church that doesn't ask for donations from their parishioners during their Sunday Services. All chapel services are 100% free (marriages, naming ceremonies, ect). Scientology earns it's money by delivering courses and auditing. Courses and auditing are optional. You do not need to take courses and auditing to be in Scientology. All you need to do to be a Scientologist is to read the books and apply Scientology to your life (like I do). But if you want auditing there are many alternative and economical ways to achieve this.
a. You can do volunteer work in your local church and get your services for free.
b. You can study to be an auditor and perform all your auditing with a fellow student. This way you can also provide free services to your friends and family. This is actually the preferred way to become clear because you learn how to help others. Scientology isn't about you going clear but taking responsibility across all your dynamics (self, family, group, humanity, life, ect).

11. Scientology and aliens. The story of Xenu is just a fable like the story of "Jonah in the Whale" in the bible. Fables are not intended to be taken seriously. The story of Xenu doesn't have any significance on Scientology beliefs.

12. Anti-Scientology propaganda is just that, propaganda. If you wanna know about this propaganda see my blog: http://www.myspace.com/129727315

References
http://www.neuereligion.de/ENG/index.html
http://www.bonafidescientology.org/
http://www.chaplaincare.navy.mil/Scientology.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/scientol.htm
http://www.scientology.org/
http://www.beliefnet.com/sem/scientology-religion.asp?source=YAHSCT&campaign=096&medium=PPC &nopop=1&WT.mc_id=YAHSCT&WT.srch=1
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Old 07-10-2010, 06:19 AM
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Do conservatives prefer pedophilia or rape?

Judging by the number of Repugnant party members - oops, Republican - who go to "bohemian grove" and on the child sex jaunts to the Dominican Republic (like Rush Limbaugh did), and Mark Foley on top of them - oops, that - it's no surprise the Reich wingers prefer pedophilia.


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