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Old 07-01-2010, 04:24 PM
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Default More answers for Sammy- How can I get my Son out of Scientology ?

Sammy I'm currently supporting my partner to leave and I can give you some advice. Start off by being really supportive, read the literature because to beat them you have to really understand the topic. Your son probably has many lectures and books start borrowing them. Avoid anti- Scientology sites, and if you have read them never mention them to your son he will consider you suppressive which is the worst thing a person can be in Socientology. Start asking positive question he will be more than happy to answer. You need to understand that a Scientologist is under constant threat of having to leave family and friends who are considered suppressive (talking about Scientology in a negative way IE: I believe its a cult). There are many things Socientologist can't talk about such as their auditing, unhappiness about a policy. Play dumb he will want you to agree with his life choice and he may open up. From here start agreeing with L.Ron Hubbard but disagree with the org as it stands now.
Firstly Sarah I don't believe Scientology is a cult. L Ron Hubbard writing is pretty commonsense stuff what I disagree with is the org as it stands right now. Their policy's need much improvement in my and others opinion. The fact that a Scientology's can't express disagreement with a policy is what contributes to its lack of progressing as an org. For the many who write into these questions with believe in God BS. My thought for you guys and girls is Have u ever played Chinese whispers where you have several people lined up in a row and you start by conversing a piece of gossip to person A who then gives that message to person b and so on. Its pr oven fact that by the time the message reaches the end it has changed into something totally different. The bible is the same its been translated and re-written and published so many times by so many different persons that I doubt it even vaguely resembles the orginal who by the way wasn't written by the founder but a follower.
Firstly Sarah I don't believe Scientology is a cult. L Ron Hubbard writing is pretty commonsense stuff what I disagree with is the org as it stands right now. Their policy's need much improvement in my and others opinion. The fact that a scientologist can't express disagreement with a policy is what contributes to its lack of progressing as an org. For the many who write into these questions with believe in God BS. My thought for you guys and girls is Have u ever played chinese whispers where you have several people lined up in a row and you start by conversing a piece of gossip to person A who then gives that message to person b and so on. Its proven fact that by the time the message reaches the end it has changed into something totally different. The bible is the same its been translated and re-written and published so many times by so many different persons that I doubt it even vaughly resembles the orginal who by the way wasn't written by the founder but a follower.
In addition dumpfinder using snatch and grab people is a dangerous and stupid thing to do. How many times has forcing u to do stuff against your will worked. Sarah hit on a good point which I should have asked Sammy Why do you want to get your son out of Scientology? and Why did he get into it in the first place ? If its because Sammy believes its a cult then maybe she needs to look deeper into it and learn about it before judging.
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Old 07-03-2010, 04:24 PM
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Scientology is a cult. Like any cult activity, you may find that harping on it only deepens its hold on him. Also, like any cult, they have a price they hold over him should he choose to deny his existence with them. If you are a Christian, then prayer and spiritual warfare are going to be your only answers. Also, you might consider, but weigh carefully and do a lot of research prior to making this move, what is called a snatching from the cult. It is where you have an organization that you do believe in actually snatch your son from the snares and basically debrief him of the Scientology indoctrination and replace it with your (preferably) Christian beliefs. You might contact Ron Hutchcraft Ministries - I'm sorry I don't have a website for you - they work specifically with youth and the challenges they face. You might also contact Focus on the Family and speak with their counselors regarding what would be the most logical and positive solution.
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Old 07-06-2010, 04:24 PM
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I agree with both of these people that you should study and understand Scientology. However, I think that if his life is becoming better because he has chosen this as the church to follow, and it looks like there is no wrong doing, then, why try? You have to remember, that like these people are referring to it as a cult, there are MANY people out there who look at many religions the same way. Lets look at a definition of a cult: a cohesive group of people devoted to beliefs or practices. Well, that really puts so many things under that category doesn't it? Some things that cults do are thought reform, and love bombing (overwhelming a person with affection to "recruit" them). I think you can see where I am going with this (missionaries, God rallies, Peace Corps, etc..all examples of thought reform and love bombing). Just because Scientology is a new thing, it doesn't necessarily mean it is a bad thing. I would hope that your son did not go about lightly in choosing Scientology, and that you can look at his decision with an open mind before you try and run him away from it.
And if you are a Christian, "judge not lest ye be judged".
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Old 07-08-2010, 04:24 PM
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This is not a question but an answer so should not be here. But whatever ...

If someone is worried about a relative being a Scientologist then my advice is 1) find out what it actually is. Don't listen to opinion and rumor, go to the Scientology.org website and take a look around. 2) Talk to your relative and find out why they think it's a good thing. Listen to what they have to say. Understand! 3) talk to them about your concerns. If you've heard something bad then ask them about it. They can probably provide you with data on the subject so you will either understand or see that what you heard was false. 4) If none of that has helped you then perhaps it's time to agree to disagree. Adults in our society have the right to think for themselves. If you believe X and they believe Y then that's part of life, not everyone is going to think the same way, not everyone is going to believe the same things. That's the beauty of our world - diversity.

One last thing, my father was horrified when I became a Scientologist. I did my best to talk to him about it and I thought at times he was being unreasonable and at times he thought I was being unreasonable. But we talked about it and resolved it. Now 30 years later we are still very close and he has no problem with me being a Scientologist. Communication and a desire to solve the problem is all you need.
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