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Old 07-15-2010, 04:26 AM
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Default Scientology is aggressively attacking the psychiatrists.Do you have an example when p

I do aware of the crimes of the psychs. But I want to be sure that this field is as bad as Scientology religion talks about them. So if you have an example when psychs did help, let me know. Right now I think such cases do not exist. I want to know what is "the other side of a medal". Please help me to find out.
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Old 07-18-2010, 04:26 AM
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Psychiatry is often useless, but it's the research of the brain and the breakthrough treatments that prove the field's worth...
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Old 07-22-2010, 04:26 AM
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A better question is do you have an example where Scientology helped anyone?

Shrinks can help if you don't become dependent on them. Scientology just wants your money.
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Old 07-26-2010, 04:26 AM
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Scientology is the WORST religion ever! I will NEVER forgive them for taking away Chef!
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Old 07-31-2010, 04:26 AM
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To me, Scientology is the problem...not the field of psychology. From everything that I have learned about that religious group-or whatever they call themselves, they are a cult in my opinion...and I doubt they really help many people-other than to take their money and brainwash them into their way of thinking.

Psychology, psychiatry etc... does indeed help millions of people everyday. Of course, you do have your bad apples... every field of every industry have those just out to make a buck or screw someone over... but in general, this is not the case.

If you want to know just how much these people help others-just do some basic go ogle searches for those fields...and you will find a wealth of information regarding the broad spectrum of mental illnesses these people can help with.

Also, I was treated for depression by a psychologist....and yes, it did help.

If nothing else, they are a "sounding board" with unbiased opinions on how to look at your problems... they can help rebuild self esteem, deal with losses, manage anxiety, help with sleep, sexual problems, marriage, family relationships, work environments...the list goes on and it's a very valuable field of social & medical science.
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Old 08-03-2010, 04:26 AM
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Psychiatrists, just like any other doctor, or regular person, has good points and bad points about themselves. It is hard to tell until you deal with them on a regular basis.

For many years, I've encountered many well known psychiatrists. Some were down right horrible and some were mediocre. The last one I saw, blew me away!! He was polite, kept eye contact with me, he was truly interested in what I had to say and everything!! He is the kindest psychiatrist and the most helpful I have ever had the pleasure of working with!!

Scientology Religion is a little on the strange side, I personally feel. They are preoccupied with psychiatry and think it is of some "evil" to been seen by them. But the choice is yours, if you want to believe in that religion or not.

I hope I was of some help to you!
Have a great day!
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Old 08-05-2010, 04:26 AM
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Well, then I will aggressively attack Scientology.
If I really cared for the poor misled bastards...

The word 'science' is their name is a disgrace.

Psychiatry is one of the most amazing sciences, and their field of study is the human brain, the most magnificent thing in the universe. Need I say more...

Presenting the proofs here is not possible: not enough space.
Just try and use more than 1% of the brain, like we all mostly do.
It would clear a lot of things up.
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Old 08-07-2010, 04:26 AM
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Psychiatrists helped save my life and the lives of many others who suffer from debilitating mental illnesses. Try talking to people who have suffered from mental illness.

As far as I know, Scientology hasn't saved the lives of anyone - feel free to correct me if I am wrong on this point.
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Old 08-08-2010, 04:26 AM
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I'd be less concerned about the psychiatrists and more about cytologists. I don't think I'll ever forget the image of their founder holding an electrocute to a tomato to measure it's pain. Nuff said...
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Old 08-12-2010, 04:26 AM
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If not for psychiatry and melds I would very likely be dead. I cannot fight my schizophrenia without either as my overdose while hearing voices and not being on melds proves. I am not saying that some people are not able to make it without a psychiatrist and melds, but I am sure they are not symptom-free if they choose to do so. Testimonials from mental patients will far outweigh idealistic nonsense from Scientology.
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Old 08-13-2010, 04:26 AM
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Psychiatrists are medical doctors first. They go through extensive post-residency training under strict supervision before they go into research or open their own practice. In addition, before becoming a psychiatrist, they have to have at least two years of intensive personal psychotherapy themselves to understand themselves and their attitudes towards the general population. A good psychiatrist won't make judgments about you just because you are different from him--he's there to help you accept yourself or change yourself as may be needed. Sometimes that is with melds, but unless you have a chemical imbalance of the brain you probably won't have to be on it forever. Also, a psychiatrist may bring in family members to help assess your problem and get different views on interpersonal dynamics. They don't necessarily assume you're the only one with the problem. I've never seen anyone in any kind of religion--organized or so-called groups like the Scientologists--that are willing to devote and invest their time and energy in your getting well like psychiatrists will. Due to the nature of my illness I have become involved in--and caused-- toxic relationships with others. I have a great doctor who's been helping me and I can now trace patterns of poor judgment and learn how to avoid them. Finally I'm learning to be happy with myself. Religion never did that for me.
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Old 08-18-2010, 04:26 AM
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I know plenty of specific cases of people that have been helped by psychiatric/psychological treatment. Let me give you some examples:
A man with a 30 year history of schizophrenia and alcoholism. Without treatment, he was delusional and ac cutely psychotic, talking to birds, threatening others, getting into fights, and refusing to eat and bathe. When hospitalized, he was given anti psychotics and offered groups and individual therapy. In mere weeks, this man was more coherent. By discharge, he is ready to rejoin community, looking for a part-time job, and living in an apartment.
A woman with bipolar disorder, involved in a long-term relationship with an extremely abusive husband. One evening, her husband beat her head against the railing until neighbors called the police. The police forbid her to return home and the judge highly recommended that she receive treatment (something she was always resistant of). During the first 4-5 months of treatment, she talked of returning to her husband and refused to testify against him. After 6 months of medication management and psychotherapy, she continued to stay in the woman's shelter, returned to college, and was testifying against her husband in the summer. The psychiatrist and therapist weren't completely responsible for this change, but helped to facilitate it.
A man with long-term schizo affective disorder and little coping skills. He was in the hospital at least once a month. He began receiving case management, psychiatric services, and other intensive outpatient services. After 2 years of services, he was able to go 7 months without a hospitalization.

These are just 3 of the millions that were helped by psychiatry and psychology. In these chronic cases, I honestly don't think vitamins and exercise would have helped.
The number of people helped by psychiatry/psychology far exceeds the number helped by Scientology. (Possibly because most people with mental illness are unable to afford Scientology)
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