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Old 05-06-2010, 05:34 AM
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hum mm....i'm watching south park and it's the episode about Stan being the chosen one and tom cruise being in the closet...question is this, they were telling about the aliens coming down and a soul Cather in the sky, underneath they said "that's what they really believe in"...i was wondering if that is true? do they believe aliens made us? that they brain swashed the souls and also the have soul gatherers and the leader is Xeno or something like that? thank u!
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Old 05-10-2010, 05:34 AM
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Look up "Operation Clambake". Yes, that really is what they believe! Sad but true.
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Old 05-11-2010, 05:34 AM
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Go to wiped,DOAat's what I did after I watched that. It made me laugh so hard. But any scientologist will try to refute this knowledge.
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Old 05-13-2010, 05:34 AM
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They believe that are bodies are "hosts" to evil alien spirits, and you can only get rid of the spirits through "cleansing" rituals. Which, of course, you have to pay the Scientology Church to do.

Crazy, but true.

Check it out at the link below....it's insane.
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Old 05-18-2010, 05:34 AM
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Scientology was invented by a science fiction writer named "L Ron Hubbard." He was a fiction writer before ever thinking about Scientology. The only reason that Scientology is a religion is because he liked the idea of religions in the United States being tax exempt. If you want to know what he believes, read a book called "Dianetics" which is the basis for Scientology.

Personally, I think he was a nut.......just as tom cruise is!
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Old 05-23-2010, 05:34 AM
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south park is the best show on TV. I'm seriously.
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Old 05-28-2010, 05:34 AM
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They believe we were originally aliens, and we are constantly reincarnating when we die, but we choose not to remember our alien heritage. When you earn higher "OT" levels you get regression therapy which helps you remember your alien roots, and you gain special mental powers. Yep, that's what they really believe in.
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Old 06-02-2010, 05:34 AM
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operation clambake.com exposes what a sham this religion is.

Their beliefs are almost as crazy as Christianity....those wackos believe in talking snakes and magic apples!
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Old 06-05-2010, 05:34 AM
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yep that's what John Travolta's bad movie was about too (didn't see it- can't even think of the name of it...) It was some sci-fie thing based on the Scientology alien stuff
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Old 06-09-2010, 05:34 AM
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Scientology was founded by a science fiction writer who thought he could get rich by creating his own religion... and he did exactly that.
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Old 06-11-2010, 05:34 AM
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Pretty much. Scientology is an occult and a dangerous one at that. You would think Tom Cruise and John Travolta and all the others would be smarter.
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Old 06-14-2010, 05:34 AM
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This is what Scientologists ACTUALLY believe (no, this is not a joke):

Xenu was an alien ruler of the "Galactic Confederacy" who, 75 million years ago, brought billions of people to Earth in spacecrafts resembling Douglas DC-8 airliners, stacked them around volcanoes and blew them up with hydrogen bombs. Their souls then clustered together and stuck to the bodies of the living. The alien souls continue to do this today, causing a variety of physical ill-effects in modern-day humans. L. Ron Hubbard (a science-fiction writer and the creator of Scientology) called these clustered spirits "Body Thetans," and the advanced levels in Scientology place considerable emphasis on isolating them and neutralizing their ill effects.

To rid ourselves of "Body Thetans", we have to go through "auditing" with a member of the ?church? who uses an "e-meter" to measure our ?reactive mind? in order to clear our mind of ?engrams? (past negative experiences stored in our unconscious mind) so that we can become ?clear?...... and we have to pay lots and lots and lots of money to take courses on Scientology to advance to higher ?levels? in the ?church?. The ?church? has also taken a very hostile stance towards psychiatry and psychiatric drugs irrespective of the fact that some people require medication to remain adequately functional in everyday life and has been known to withhold prescription pharmaceuticals from member (with deadly results).

Scientology is undeniably a cult.

Every cult can be defined as a group having all of the following five characteristics:

1. It uses psychological coercion to recruit, indoctrinate and retain its members
2. It forms an elitist totalitarian society.
3. Its founder leader is self-appointed, dogmatic, messianic, not accountable and has charisma.
4. It believes 'the end justifies the means' in order to solicit funds & recruit people.
5. Its wealth does not benefit its members or society.

Are Cults Harmful?

To remain within the strict mental and social confines of a cult for even a short time can have the following disastrous effects:

Loss of choice and free will. Diminished intellectual ability, vocabulary and sense of humor. Reduced use of irony, abstractions and metaphors. Reduced capacity to form flexible and intimate relationships. Poor judgment. Physical deterioration. Malnutrition. Hallucinations, panic, dissociation, guilt, identity diffusion and paranoia. Neurotic, psychotic or suicidal tendencies.

Watch this very revealing video that will, in about 4-5 minutes, show you EXACTLY what Scientology is all about: http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
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Old 06-17-2010, 05:34 AM
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I'm a Scientologist and I want to clarify that the story of Xeno is just a fable and no Scientologist believe it to be true. In fact most Scientologist I have meet haven't even heard the story. Scientology is much like Buddhism but instead of meditation the use auditing with the same goal and better results.
Also there is no such thing as a body the tan. A the tan is the colloquial name that Scientologist call the human spirit. But there is no such thing as body the tans.
That S. Park episode was really mess up.
I can't understand why people keep trying to make up stories of what Scientology is. Is just absurd that you assume that you know more about my religion than me.
I don't believe in Aliens. Want to know what Scientologist believe in. Here is a link from the US Navy. It explains it all.

http://www.chaplaincare.navy.mil/Scientology.htm
The reason people make up such absurd stories about
Scientology is because plain and simple ignorance. They can't understand it so people attack what thy can't understand.
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Old 06-19-2010, 05:34 AM
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As a Scientologist (for over 34 years) I can answer your question:
South Park is a satirical TV cartoon show. One that seems to specialize in "religion bashing" for some reason best known to it's creators. Mostly South Park gets it's yuks from joking and degrading about other people, which is pretty sad, since it's not really true satire.
Scientology is not a "belief system", so your question: Is this what we really believe? is answered by this fact.
To answer this further, here is a good, simple description of what Scientology actually is:

Scientology is an applied religious philosophy. When I say "applied" I mean you actually use it in your life to change or improve existing conditions. This is different from a religious practice. All religions if you learn about them have a basic philosophy, but they also have certain dogma, rituals and observances, and a certain faith or belief is required. There is nothing wrong with this, but Scientology is not that kind of religion. It does not intrude on any ones faiths of beliefs particularly in the area of God , the Supreme Being, or the Infinite. This area is left totally up to the individual, which is why you can be a practicing Jew,for example and still use and apply the principles of Scientology in your life. It does not conflict. If anything it will enhance your understanding of your chosen religious practice.
You can have no specific religious beliefs and still benefit from using it.
And it is only true for you according to your own observation and experience with it.
It is a non denominational religion . The dictionary definition that applies:
Religion: The spiritual or emotional attitude of one who recognizes the existence of superhuman power or powers.

The most basic principle of Scientology is that YOU are your own immortal soul, that this is not a "thing" you HAVE but what YOU actually are.
The whole purpose of Scientology is to increase an individuals understanding and awareness of himself. And thereby his native abilities .
When you do this the sphere and zone of his positive influence increases and moves outward into his life, his family ,his friends, his groups and mankind which he is part of.

How this result is achieved is the "technology" of Scientology, which was developed by L.Ron Hubbard after his extensive research and the discoveries he made, about the human spirit. The basic religious philosophy and knowledge of Scientology is very old, going back 10,000 years at least to the Veda or Vedic Hymns from the East. The development of the technology is new.
He completed his research before his death in 1986 and left all of his results and copyrights
to the Church of Scientology along with most of his considerable personal estate, when he died.

He published a book in 1951 to communicate the basic principles he discovered called: " Scientology The Fundementals of Thought"
There are currently over 8 million Scientologists in more that 150 countries world wide. However we are a new religion, only 53 years old.
The true story of Scientology as a religion goes like this:
1. A philosopher developes a philosophy about life and death.
2. People find it interesting.
3. People find it works.
4. People pass it along to others.
5. It grows.

Note the absence of anything about "aliens".
Hope this answers your question.
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Old 06-24-2010, 05:34 AM
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ha ha,

I just had to answer this seen as we have a scion denying it, and the other trying to ignore it outright and doge the issue (as usual). Hi Theta, welcome back...

LOL they are so funny!

Well it is true and I can prove it undeniably, showing that they even lie to the public (as above) about their teachings and true intentions.

Anway, not all cytologistsST's about Xenu. Xenu is taught at OT III (OT = Operating Thetan), and the event concerning Xena is also known as the wall of fire. This is a fairly high up level in the Church, and for Scieno's, is steeped in mystery and the promise of ulimate freedom. They are not allowed to talk about it, esp. with other scientologists as Hubbard taught even the knowledge of it could kill or send crazy the unprepared... Yes L R Hubbard was an outright lunatic.

So by the time you get to OT III, you have spent in the region of 200,000 and could easily spend that again. You have also gone through most likely over a decade of mind and social control, whereby your critical thinking skills are eroded, and your ability to make correct judgements plummets, esp. with regard to scientology and LRH.

So is it true? I mean I can say it is, they can say it isn't, but can we prove it? YES I CAN.

Here is the first page in Hubbard's own handwriting.
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/OTIII/

Here is a court trial concerning all the OT materials where the Church confirmed they were correct...
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/fishman/index2.html

So there now you have the proof.

South Park was accurate in its depiction of Scientology.
http://www.xenutv.com/cruise/sp-closet.htm

Please bear in mind scientology is a dangerous cult, who's members are its victims. They are nice people who want to help, but have been manipulated and tricked into believing in the conman LRH. A short look at his life shows he was just a fraud, but don't go to the Church for his story, he lied constantly about that too.
http://www.clambake.org/archive/books/bfm/bfmconte.htm
http://www.xs4all.nl/~kspaink/cos/LRH-bio/

Scientology is a destructive cult.

Oh and its sounds like sci-fi, because it is. Hubbard was a moderately successful sci-fi writer, and it would seem never stopped writing sci-fi.

Some main sites critical of scientology:

http://www.clambake.org
http://www.xenutv.com
http://www.lermanet.com
http://www.whyaretheydead.net
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Old 06-26-2010, 05:34 AM
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Yes, that is exactly what they believe. It is not a joke; it's pretty hilarious when you see it on South Park, but it really is no laughing matter. It's pathetic.
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