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Old 06-30-2010, 07:31 PM
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Default Can somebody pls explain Scientology? Or perhaps give their opinion on this so-called

Can somebody pls explain Scientology? Or perhaps give their opinion on this so-called "religion"?
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Old 07-01-2010, 07:31 PM
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Ok...

Here's what they'll use to measure your "engrams" (according to Scientology, past negative experiences stored in your unconscious mind):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-meter

Here's an in-depth look into their strange gadget, the e-meter:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/cooper/sos-18.html

This is what they believe in (including aliens):
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ap8nVqpmRkLIn2rqXNPxlCEjzKIX?qid=200611 24162841AAdJv3F

This is how they view birth (complete silence):
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20061109120531AAVpKDj

This is how they sell their cult to others:
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=AsRBlApM2mdSw7XfXIAgOqwjzKIX?qid=200611 25081249AAPtMJV

This is how much it costs to involve yourself in their cult:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_as_a_business#Costs

Here's how they deal with perceived enemies:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_controversy#Church_of_Scientology_deal ing_with_critics_and_perceived_enemies
http://www.xenu.net/fairgame-e.html

Watch this short video (around 4 minutes long):
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com/
And this one:
http://theunfunnysequel.ytmnd.com/
This one is longer (little less than an hour), it was on the CBS show "48 Hours":
http://www.scientomogy.com/jeremy_perkins.php

My opinion can be found in the third link, but I'll describe what I think of Scientology in one word: dangerous.
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:31 PM
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Their basis is actually a good one. It says be smart above all. Believing in a deity is not a good move. Lift yourself above such nonsense.
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Old 07-05-2010, 07:31 PM
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This sounds silly, but it is true.

http://www.xenu.net/
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Old 07-06-2010, 07:31 PM
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Here is what Scientology believes: http://historyofscientology.ytmnd.com
Here's why Scientology is a problem:
http://theunfunnytruth.ytmnd.com
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Old 07-11-2010, 07:31 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu
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Old 07-16-2010, 07:31 PM
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It's not a religion, and it takes LOTS of money to be a "member".
Zero Cool has all the scoop.
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Old 07-20-2010, 07:31 PM
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It is nonsense. Although I am against any religion I respect old religions (Christianity, Judaism, Muslim, Buddhism, Hinduism...) through cultural aspect. But Scientology? This "religion" is so without any sense that I even can't explain it.
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Old 07-22-2010, 07:31 PM
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At this point my view of Scientology is that it actually can help you if you believe that it works but it will suck your bank account dry. It is a cult but if you stay on the fringe and don't get too involved you might be OK. The problem is that it's pretty much impossible to stay on the fringe and feel fulfilled. You're led to believe that you always have a problem and the only thing that can solve the problem is getting to the next Level. Each level costs even more money than the last. It's a scam that brainwashes you into believing you need to attain the next level or else you will never be 'free'. If you're a multimillionaire you have nothing to lose except your free will and your dignity.
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Old 07-25-2010, 07:31 PM
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THIS IS SCIENTOLOGY

1. What is true for you is what you yourself observe to be true.

2. Man is his spirit not his mind or his body.

3. The spirit creates his own mind. Please, do not confuse the mind with the brain that is a physical thing. The mind is composed of mental image pictures as explained in Dianetics. These pictures serve the spirit to give him knowledge and experience. These pictures are composed of energy. The energy in the picture can affect the spirit. You can feel better by remembering something that you like or angry by remembering something else. These emotions are actually energy waves emanated by the picture. You can actually feel pain by remembering a pain memory. Sometimes these pictures are accompanied by ideas or considerations. Lets suppose that you father beat you mom up in front of you. Your father was the dominating figure so you might conclude that you have to act like your father in some situations. This is what we call on Scientology an aberration (a conclusion that is imposed to you by a mental picture). This picture is what we call a engram (a pain memory that affects your judgment and free will).

4. You can discharge the energy in these pictures through communication. This is Dianetics Auditing and is the oldest of hundreds of Scientology techniques used to improve the individual.

5. The Spirit creates his own emotions. Are you happy? Are you sad? Are you depress? Maybe you think that something external of you is creating your emotions. Maybe you believe that you are sad because you had a bad day or maybe you believe that you are happy because you had a great day. And this might be true. But who made the decision that you had a good or bad day? You did. You decided if life was good or bad, and adjusted your emotions to respond to your own consideration. You created your own emotion.
Some people are born with everything they want and are still unhappy. And others are born into humble means and are happy. What's the difference? The only real difference is each person's ideas and considerations.
Scientology uses hundreds of processes in order to help a person get a better understanding and a better outlook in life by using his own observations.

6. Scientology Ethics. Ethical people take full responsibility for their actions. Un-ethical people blame others for their actions. "Wrong doings" diminish and deteriorate the freedom of the spirit because the need to justify the "wrong doing". So the spirit is enslaved into repeating the "wrong doing" in order to justify the original "wrong doing". The road to freedom lies within taking full responsibility for your personal condition and actions, past, present and future. Scientology provides the tools to help the person able to be fully responsible over his life thus rehabilitating his ability to be good and self determined.
Also Scientologist base their conduct on a non-denominational code of conduct. http://twth.org/eb/?id=16664j

7. Scientology and God. Scientology acknowledges the supreme being and promotes the individual search for closeness to God trough religion.

8. Scientology vs Psychiatry. Psychiatry believes that self awareness, feelings, love and faith is merely cellular activity. Basically they think that you are your brain and you are not in charge of your behavior but your cells are.This is a totally materialistic point of view that denies the spirit and God. Psychiatrist is a pseudo science because it is based in principles that are false. Psychiatry have never pr oven that any "mental illnesses" (like they call it) has any connection with a physical illness. Any Neurologist will tell you there are no medical test to identify a "mental illness". All Psychiatrists base their diagnosis on opinion and opinion alone.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3895596783332855545&q=Psychiatry+i s+fraude&hl=enhttp://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8443414209115892468&q=scientology& hl=en
http://video.yahoo.com/video/play?p=cchr&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&b=1&oid=12085d1e6c58d04e&rurl=video.yahoo.com&vd one=http%3A%2F%2Fvideo.yahoo.com%2Fsearch%2Fvideo% 3Fp%3Dcchr%26toggle%3D1%26cop%3Dmss%26ei%3DUTF-8
Happiness, exhilaration, depression and psychosis are states of mind, not diseases. All what you have to do to stop being depress is change your state of mind. How you do that? By changing your ideas and considerations. Scientology provides the tools to achieve a better state of mind in accordance with your own point of view.
Also Psychiatrist excuse the most horrendous crimes as mental illnesses. This is actually creates a sense of irresponsibility in society because it tells people that they are not responsible for their actions. Second they promote that drugs are the answer for your problems. This message promotes the use of drugs to find release from life and creates the current drug addiction problem in society. Drugs will only give you temporary false release but will never solve the source of your problems.And actually drugs will keep you away from finding a true spiritual release.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-4437051883726295326&q=psychiatry&hl=en
Note: Scientology doesn't have anything against Psychology or Neurology. Also the mere awareness that you are a spiritual being and not a body makes you better person.

9. Scientology is a force for good in society. Scientologist fights Psychiatry, the drug companies, criminality, http://www.criminon.org and drug addiction. http://www.narconon.org Also Scientology fought and won against the FDA and the IRS. And Scientologist initiated the social reform group "Youth for Human Rights" http://www.youthforhumanrights.org and the movement "Say no to drugs and yes to life". http://www.notodrugs-yestolife.org
Scientologist are some of the more intelligent, able and successful people in this planet. Including Jenna Elfman, Kelly Preston, John Travolta, Priscilla Presley, Sofia Milos and Leah Remini. Even Danny Masterson from the that's That '70s Show is a Scientologist.

10. Scientology is the only church that doesn't ask for donations from their parishioners during their Sunday Services. All chapel services are 100% free (marriages, naming ceremonies, ect). Scientology earns it's money by delivering courses and auditing. Courses and auditing are optional. You do not need to take courses and auditing to be in Scientology. All you need to do to be a Scientologist is to read the books and apply Scientology to your life (like I do). But if you want auditing there are many alternative and economical ways to achieve this.
a. You can do volunteer work in your local church and get your services for free.
b. You can study to be an auditor and perform all your auditing with a fellow student. This way you can also provide free services to your friends and family. This is actually the preferred way to become clear because you learn how to helps other. Scientology isn't about you going clear but taking responsibility across all your dynamics (self, family, group, humanity, life, ect).

11. Scientology and aliens. The story of Xenu is just a fable like the story of "Jonah in the Whale" in the bible. Fables are not intended to be taken seriously. The story of Xenu doesn't have any significance on Scientology beliefs.

12. Anti-Scientology propaganda is just that, propaganda. If you wanna know about this propaganda machine see my blog: http://www.myspace.com/129727315

References
http://www.chaplaincare.navy.mil/Scientology.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/scientol.htm
http://www.beliefnet.com/sem/scientology-religion.asp?source=YAHSCT&campaign=096&medium=PPC &nopop=1&WT.mc_id=YAHSCT&WT.srch=1
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Old 07-29-2010, 07:31 PM
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No problem getting "opinions" about religions on THIS forum !!
It's regular "opinion poll ".
Here's some actual facts about Scientology:
Scientology is an applied religious philosophy. When I say "applied" I mean you actually use it in your life to change or improve existing conditions. It is a very practical religion.
All religions if you learn about them have a basic philosophy, but they also have certain dogma, rituals and observances, and a certain faith or belief is required. There is nothing wrong with this, but Scientology is not that kind of religion. It does not intrude on any ones faiths of beliefs particularly in the area of God , the Supreme Being, or the Infinite. This area is left totally up to the individual, which is why you can be a practicing Jew,for example and still use and apply the principles of Scientology in your life. It does not conflict. If anything it will enhance your understanding of your chosen religious practice.
You can have no specific religious beliefs and still benefit from using it.
And it is only true for you according to your own observation and experience with it.
It is a non denominational religion . The dictionary definition that applies:
Religion: The spiritual or emotional attitude of one who recognizes the existence of superhuman power or powers.

The most basic principle of Scientology is that YOU are your own immortal soul, that this is not a "thing" you HAVE but what YOU actually are.
The whole purpose of Scientology is to increase an individuals understanding and awareness of himself. and life And thereby his native abilities .
When you do this the sphere and zone of his positive influence increases and moves outward into his life, his family ,his friends, his groups and mankind which he is part of.

How this result is achieved is the "technology" of Scientology, which was developed by L.Ron Hubbard after his extensive research and the discoveries he made, about the human spirit. The basic religious philosophy and knowledge of Scientology is very old, going back 10,000 years at least to the Veda or Vedic Hymns from the East. The development of the technology is new.
He completed his research before his death in 1986 and left all of his results and copyrights
to the Church of Scientology along with most of his considerable personal estate, when he died.

He published a book in 1951 to communicate the basic principles he discovered called: " Scientology The Fundementals of Thought"
There are currently over 10 million Scientologists in more than 163 countries world wide. However we are a new religion, only 53 years old.
The true story of Scientology as a religion goes like this:
1. A philosopher developes a philosophy about life and death.
2. People find it interesting.
3. People find it works.
4. People pass it along to others.
5. It grows.

This is just an overview.
L. Ron Hubbard explained fully the theology and technologies of Scientology in more than 500,000 pages of writings, including dozens of books and over 2,000 tape-recorded public lectures. So it's not possible to fully answer your question.
As to my opinion of Scientology I don't see what that has to do with your understanding of what Scientology actually is.
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Old 07-31-2010, 07:31 PM
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Firstly, don't listen to "Zero Cool." He is an atheist turned anti-religious extremist. He only wants to fill people with false data about religion and thus create religious hatred.

I am a Scientology. The gains that I have had through the Church of Scientology is amazing!

Scientology is an applied religious philosophy. The word Scientology literally means "the study of truth." It comes from the Latin word "sci" meaning "knowing in the fullest sense of the word" and the Greek word "logos" meaning "study of."

Scientology is the study and handling of the spirit in relationship to itself, others and all of life. The religion comprises a body of knowledge extending from certain fundamental truths.

If you are interested in learning about the parts of man, namely, Body-Mind-Spirit, you can learn more about it here:
http://www.scientology.org/en_US/religion/presentation/pg008.html

By addressing the spirit through Scientology, you resolve trouble spots in the past and in essence obtain a much higher level of spiritual freedom than you've had in a long time.

Using the knowledge and tools you gain through Scientology, life becomes easier and more happier as you can now resolve problems easier, be better at communicating with others, your level of communication will also be better, your intelligence will go up, you become faster and more aware. All of these things are just a small amount of the wins to be had in Scientology.

You may want to read Scientology: The Fundamentals of Thought, by L. Ron Hubbard
http://www.truthbooks.com/
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