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Old 08-11-2010, 02:03 PM
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Default I guess Scientology couldn't save Jett Travolta?

What do you think?
Do you know anything about Scientology?
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Old 08-14-2010, 02:03 PM
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And your point is.....
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Old 08-15-2010, 02:03 PM
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i dint really know much about Scientology. but i dint believe in religion in general. i dint think his religion had anything to do with his death though, not really sure why you re asking this question.
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Old 08-16-2010, 02:03 PM
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I would agree with your first statement.

What I know about it comes mainly from things I've read like books and things in the media. I only know one person who has first-hand knowledge of it, and her experience was not good.

Her daughter, who was 10 or 12 years older than I am went to Hollywood in the mid 80s to work at one of the studios. She was an expert on period costuming and hair styles.

She didn't know anyone there, and one of the first people she met was a Scientologist. Through her, she met others, so a lot of her friends were Scientologists, and she got involved with the organization.

She was bipolar (back then it was just called manic-depression), and she had to take medication to keep her moods stable. She was encouraged by the Scientologists to discontinue taking her medication, and they told her that using their techniques, she could fix her problems. Eventually she did stop taking her medication.

She came home for the holidays one year, and her mother (my friend) said she was not doing well--she was pretty much out of control with her mood swings, and her whole family tried talking to her about it because they were very concerned she'd hurt herself; she had tried to commit suicide several times when she was younger, before she was diagnosed properly.

She killed herself in the spring of the following year. She was not taking her medication, and other friends of hers (non-Scientologists) later told her family she was really a mess. A lot of people had tried to get her to see a doctor and get back on medication but she didn't want to because she felt it was a weakness, and that she wasn't practicing Scientology correctly, and that when she stopped making mistakes in what she was doing, she'd be fine.

I met the girl's mother around 1993, and we worked together for at least a year before she even told me that one of her children had killed herself. It took about another year before she told me the whole story. Her conclusion was that Scientology is just a fancy, dressed up cult, and that it and its adherents were responsible for her daughter's death. She said her daughter was quite fine with medication, and that she would never have killed herself if she had been taking it. Her dream was to work in the movie industry doing what she had trained for (which fascinated her, and which she loved) for the rest of her life. She also wanted to get married and have kids. My friend said one of the first things that happened when her daughter got involved with it was that she stopped calling and writing letters home. She thinks they isolated her daughter from her family and old friends on purpose so they could gain more control over her. The only other thing my friend really ever said about it was had she known how dangerous it can be, she would have hired someone who specializes in deprogramming people who join cults, and she would have gone to extremes, even kidnapping her daughter if necessary and holding her until her head cleared. The problem is she just didn't know how bad it was until it was too late.

That's all I know that's based on fact, rather than just something I've read or seen or heard in the media.
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Old 08-20-2010, 02:03 PM
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Jett knew the truth, that is why he is dead..
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Old 08-22-2010, 02:03 PM
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but my daughter has a friend since kinder garden that is part of the Church of Scientology. This girl and her family have been our neighbors. They do have a specific point of view and are firm about not accepting the drugs to help kids with psychological problems. They do not believe Simeon can have depression or being hyperactive. However they do not prevent anyone to get medical treatment as Jett Travolta was under seizure medications. The problem with these drugs is that the patient builds a tolerance and they stop working, I was told.

Our neighbors have been isolated, ignored and excluded unfairly. They asked us if we were interested in getting more information about Scientology but I answered as I answered to the Jehovah's Witnesses that knocks on my door. I'm happy with what I have (that is nothing because I'm not religious). Neighbors and us continue on friendly terms for 25 years, they are lovely people that are animal lovers as we are and they mind their own business as well as we do.

I'm confident that the Travolta's gave their son the best of care.
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Old 08-26-2010, 02:03 PM
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Clearly it couldn't since he died in unfortunate circumstances. If anything it may have indirectly contributed to his death.

Apparently after Jett's death John Travolta publicly admitted his son had autism which the church of Scientology does not believe in mainly because a lot of the treatment for autism comes from Psychiatrists and cytologistsST's taught that psychiatrists are the root of all evil on Earth, were responsible for the Holocaust and 9/11. Treatment which was not accessible to Jett because of his parent's beliefs although he was on anti seizure medication to deal with the seizure's that accompany autism.

Prior to his death John and is Scientologist wife said Jett suffered from Kawaski's Syndrome, which is very rare and did not fit Jett's symptoms, coupled with the fact it is very rarely fatal and doesn't typically affect children over 8. The said the Seizure medication was becoming less effective, as so often happens so decided to take him off medication rather than try something else - they said they did this on the advice of neurosurgeons though - so Jett went back to suffering around 1 seizure a week.

Aside from scientology there was also some concern about Jett's care immediately prior to his death because it is rumoured that he had been laying dead for a considerable period of time prior to being found, however no charges of neglect have been filed.

It would seem this may have been a tragic case of parents being misguided by their dogmatic beliefs.
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