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Shi'aThe Shi'a constitute 10–20% of Islam and are its second-largest branch.[9][12] They believe in the political and religious leadership of Imams from the progeny of Ali ibn Abi Talib, who according to most Shi'a are in a state of ismah, meaning infallibility
Ramadan: I read something about Shi'ite... Is it true that they love the Kafir more t
At first, I don't really care of Shi'ite and Sunni differences, I think we worship same God, and don't really bother about it. I'm Sunni, and Sunni didn't "taker" the people that not in their sect. I learn Shi'ite view of Sahaba, their denominations, geologic and Fiqh view, and I don't really bother on the differences.
But just now, I read about one article about Shia.
(just to take note that there is no such thing as "Wahabis" people here)
They write stories on how Shia betrayed their Muslim brethren from Sunni that didn't have a similar view with them. These are the implication of the stories, just a few stories I taken here...
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1. During Umayyad Dynasty, Shi'ite provoke the Ajam (especially the Persian) to rebel against the Caliph.
Persian are actually Sunni (the people that open Persian City during Caliphate Expansion is Sunni), but then Shi'ite provoke them turns to Shi'ite to opposed the Caliph.
2. The Fall of Abbasid dynasty and Baghdad is the plan of a Shi'ite Wazir. He is elected by a Sunni Caliph, who trust him to be the prime Minister.
Yet, he BETRAY THE COMPASSIONATE CALIPH, silently expel and demote many charismatic army officer and General. The size of army is reduced by the Wazir silently from 100000 people strength to 10000 people strength.
He dealing with the Khan from Mongol NOT TO accept Caliph Peace Treaty, and in other hand persuade the Caliph to negotiate Peace Treaty with the mongols.
The Caliph has been slayed by the Mongols, just after he handed a huge payment for the "peace treaty" and the Wazir give the "sign" for the assasination. Baghdad fall easily without effective leader. Those Shi'ite whom shelter in the Wazir house didn't been killed by the mongols. These mass murder of Sunni result in demographic of Shi'ite people in Iraq.
And the Wazir is considered to be a pious by the Shi'ite for that.
3. The Fall of Ottoman Caliph is due to Shi'ite people.
T.C. Lawrence provokes Shi'ite Arabic leader to go against and rebel the Ottoman Caliph. These shaken the unity of Caliphate. Arabs was taken by British easily.
Hashemite House been given the power to control what we called now as Saudi Arabia by the Ottoman Caliph, but they too against the Caliph. Saudis of Najd go against Hashemite and gain victories over Saudi Arabia, and insert Wahabism ideology.
At first I think it is normal because Shiite take example of Prophet SAW Grandson that lead the people against the dictatorship of Muaywiyah.
But I don't think it is OK to invites Mongols and British to against Sunni Caliph... And I don't think that Ottoman and Abbasid Caliph is a treat for Shiite...
What is Shi'ite view of Sunni? (are we Kafir for you? until your people conspired against Caliph?)
I just want to ask, what is the view of Shi'ite to their Sunni brethren NOW (we are not talking about the past)?
Did Shiite always want Sunni to have a weak leader so that you can against our Caliph and betray them?
Do you think compassionate Caliph that appoint the Wazir should be killed that way, because he is too stupid in believing in his Shi'ite prime minister?
Do you think it is OK to support Mongols and British against Sunni Caliph? For installing your political leader (even under the people hands)?
Is the Conclusion of the story is correct? Do you love Kafir more than Sunni?
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It was the shia's who helped hamas, It was the shia's who fund them
- Saudis too, and majority of Hamas fund is come from Saudis. But only the Shia's fund is used for military.
It was the Shea's who helped ha mas
It was the Shea's who fund them
it was the Shina who sent the first aid to Gaza
it was the Shina whom were under pressure from the world but still helped Sunni brothers
i is the Shea's who suffers from Wahhabi's and day by they are killing the shia's in the of blah blah
Its the shia's who are CALLING for Unity unity
brotherhood but its you people who are AGAINST US
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do you want more
?REGARDING THE NECESSARY DIVISION Between Sunni & Shee'ah
Followers of the Shee'ah may claim that they have authentic Hadlee supporting their claims; however, upon investigation by the scholars of Islaam, it is found that the HadesTHSsey bring (if they are not fabricated, as many of them are) are being understood and implemented in a manner completely foreign to Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, foreign to his family, and foreign to his sincere and upright followers.
The reason why the Shi'a are not accepted nor reconciled with is because they have introduced beliefs and practices into Islam that were never taught by the Prophet, peace be upon him, never taught by his family, or his companions. Rather they have changed Islam from it's original perfected form and thusly, innovated a way of life that leads to Hellfire. This is not a dispute between a trivial "this" and "that", it is a serious issue dealing with the difference between the Straight Path to Paradise and the crooked paths that lead to punishment in this life and the next. May Allaah rectify our condition and affairs.
With regards to Shee'ism, then it is not the Islam that was taught by Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him. Rather, they are a group that have exaggerated the status of the noble family of the Prophet, peace be upon him, to the extent that they build shrines devoted to their worship along with Allaah. This is shirk, polytheism, the greatest crime a human being can commit in the sight of Allaah.
The proper way to practice Islam is to follow the understanding of the Qur'aan and the Prophetic life example that was actually taught by Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, and actually lived by the Prophet, peace be upon him, his family, and his companions.
All beliefs and acts of worship that oppose this way are affairs that lead away from Paradise and lead towards Hellfire.
It is not permissible to worship Allaah with acts of worship that did not exist in the time of the Prophet, peace be upon him (such as pilgrimage to Karbala, calling upon 'Ali or other human beings for help who are dead or absent, building shrines dedicated to saints, etc...) And it is not permissible to interpret the Qur'aan with meanings that oppose what the Prophet, peace be upon him, actually taught.
Remember, the main goal of every Muslim is to enter Paradise and to avoid torment in the Hellfire. The main goal is not unity in this life for the sake of "unity". If the Shee'ah have chosen for themselves a path to destruction, then it is not in any Muslim's interest to "unite" with them. Rather the sincere Muslim should advise them to return to the right guidance that Allaah created us and them for, and if they refuse, then other Muslims should be warned against falling into their severe errors. By this way, with Allaah's permission, we preserve the correct practice of Islam for ourselves and for future generations who seek to worship Allaah correctly.
Whether the Shia' as a whole will repent and return to the Straight Path...? Allaah knows best. This splitting amongst the Muslims is a test from Allaah to see who will sincerely and correctly follow His religion. He guides whom He wills and He leaves to stray whom He wills and Allaah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
?ADDITIONAL NOTE: "Fitnah" Makers?
It is oppression to call a Muslim who clarifies the difference between true Islam and deviant ideologies a "fitnah" maker. The people responsible for making "fitnah" are those who alter the pure religion of Allaah and turn it to something that leads our brothers and sisters to Hell.
If I knew someone who was in danger of being murdered, would I be considered a "fitnah" maker if I were to alert that person to danger? No. I would not be considered a fitnah maker, even if the murderer was a Muslim.
And innovation in religion and the threat of Hellfire is more serious a danger to a person than murder and thusly a Muslim has more right to be warned against it in the clearest terms possible.
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?"The Correct Islamic Stance Towards the Shee'ah from the Scholars of Islaam Throughout History"
http://www.troid.org/manhaj/shee-ah/index.php
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Hmm.. i won't comment on your history..but right now it seems like we are both fighting the same oppressors and to achieve the end,we have to make friends, not foes.
Collaborating doesn't mean you have to agree with the principles
You see, those are the past, why not unite and put aside all our differences?? We can surely defeat the world's superpower if we put Allah first, and not our differences
Rasulullah got help from non-Muslims too during his time, what we want now is unity within the Muslim Ummah, is that too difficult??
The Saudis?? They are allies with our common enemy, of course they help Hamas too, but I think they should first severe their ties with the enemy...
Yes shies can accept Sunni caliphate because in the caliphate different religions are meant to live together in peace
and the Sunni name was actually given by the shies to whoever else who wasn't Persian in that time
I agree with Ali that shies has suffered because of Wahhabi's but ultimately we are not all like that and in fact, is something that we have to fight, because there wont be unity as long as the Saudi family is in power in SA
It seems Shias have an intense jealousy of Sunnis and are willing to co-operate with non-believers. An enemy of Islam is one who makes friends with Islam haters.
have you ever wondered between all the Muslim countries or between all the Muslims "in power", Iran (Shia) and HezbuAllah (Shia) were the only ones who helped Gaza?
did any Sunni power help Gaza?
Sunni individuals did help Gaza, but did their governments do anything?
Ramadan: I read something about Shi'ite... Is it true that they love the Kafir more t
