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Shi'a The Shi'a constitute 10–20% of Islam and are its second-largest branch.[9][12] They believe in the political and religious leadership of Imams from the progeny of Ali ibn Abi Talib, who according to most Shi'a are in a state of ismah, meaning infallibility


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Old 08-21-2008, 06:16 AM
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Default Shi'a Muslims: Is this true?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

I don't know, but the poster of this is either an Atheist or a Christian. Either way, what is this?!!!!!!!
Isn't this describing Mecca, Ramadan etc?!

"Well, they're wrong. Islam was not based on Christianity, it was derived from the worship of Ilah, or Al'ilah, the Arabian god of the moon.

The city of Mecca was built in honor of the moon god, and believers of the moon god turned towards it to pray. Sound familiar?

The symbol of the moon god was a crescent moon.. sound familiar?

Worshipers of the moon god fasted during the month of the crescent moon.. sound familiar?"
and no one asked you non-Shea's to polite my question with your crappy words.
You worship your Omar the Devil and mind your own business.
@Nayla: so the whole thing is fake, right? I mean if it was true, I'd like to ask "why would God ask us to call him Allah and why would he want us to fast during the same month this pagan tradition was practiced?"

But you're assaying all this is fake, right/ Did I
Did I get it right?
@ Suzan: Thaks. I'd heard it before somewhere, but I thought I'd ask the question here right now.
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Old 08-24-2008, 06:16 AM
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of course the shies will say this is true, they only worship their 12 imams, the family of the Prophet(saw) is free from Shina filthy lies
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Old 08-26-2008, 06:16 AM
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I'm not reading Shina crap.


you Noe Wat i mean.
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Old 08-27-2008, 06:16 AM
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wow man you are slow
this is all Christian Evangelist crap,made up,garbage by Dr. Robert Morey
they use to make people think we are pagans so we can worship their Jesus

old news. move on.

This has been refuted by Muslims already more then 3 years back.
http://www.mostmerciful.com/moongod.htm

Auzubillah, is this the God we worship? the moon God?

http://www.islamic-awareness.org/Quran/Sources/Allah/hazor3.gif

Are we pagans?

Quran 6:103" No vision can grasp Him, but His grasp is over all vision: He is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things."

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Old 08-28-2008, 06:16 AM
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See why we view Shia like any Anti-Islamic group, cause your thoughts are no different than them..... even worse, they fight us in public, you fight us in private

@Asker:
In response to your private message, all i can say is LOL!

And why did you disable your email, I'm not the one who responds to hate with hate, not in private at least, we can have a civilized discussion, i wont resort to insult you or your personal convictions

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Old 08-31-2008, 06:16 AM
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Lesson #1: Never believe what an Atheist tells you.

http://muslim-responses.com/The_Moon_God_lie/The_Moon_God_lie_

PERFECT answer for you there, this ridiculous slander is refuted by Sami Zaatari.

Salam.
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Old 09-02-2008, 06:16 AM
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Against Secularism - or Against Islam, I should say:

Your repetitive lies and your love for fit nah are whats filthy The ask er asked a simple question, you didn't have to bring in your hateful comments. I'm sure you could have saved it for any of the hundreds of questions you Salamis have prepared later. But just because this brother is a Shia Muslim doesn't mean you have to be a disgusting jack*SS about it.

Blitz:

Again, the ask er only asked a question which was not 'anti-Islamic'. He only repeated what another anti-Islamic user had just said and we are discussing it. We are allowed to question and ask about our faith. Thats how we expand in knowledge. We will not understand anything if we remain close minded.

Asker:

Brother, you need not to listen to the anti-Islamics. Their very weak argument regarding the 'moon god' was refuted many times.

(And if at any time an incitement to discord is made to thee by the Satan, seek refuge in Allah. He is the One who hears and knows all things. Among His Signs are the night and the day and the sun and the moon. Prostrate not to the sun and the moon, but prostrate to Allah, who created them, if it is Him ye wish to serve). 41:36-37.

(They ask thee Concerning the New Moons. Say: They are but signs To mark fixed periods of time In the affairs of men, And for Pilgrimage. It is no virtue if ye enter Your houses from the back: It is virtue if ye fear Allah. Enter houses Through the proper doors: And fear Allah: That ye may prosper) 21:89.

Christian missionaries have mistaken the crescent moon in Islam to be significant in any way to us. The crescent moon and star is seen on the mosques and is only a symbol of the last rulers of the Ottoman Empire, not of Islam. Islam holds no symbol, the way they have the cross. Islam is a way of life and needs nothing to represent it or symbolize it.

(They ask you about the new moons. Say: These are signs to mark fixed periods of time for mankind and for the pilgrimage) 2:189.

At the time of the Prophet (saw), there had been 360 idols present in the Ka'ba. 'Allah' was not one of them. These are false claims that were made without a single evidence. Also, they seem not to have full understanding of the Arabic language. The word 'Allah' was used for a long time, not just by Muslims. Arab Christians and Jews have used that word even before Muslims and continue to do so, to refer to their God. It is a word that has been used ever since the time of Prophet Abraham (a). Open an Arabic Bible today and the word will be found. The word 'Allah' is made up of 2 syllables - 'Al' and 'Ilah'. Put together, they make the word 'Allah' = God.

As I said, since there were 360 idols that the Pagan Arabs worshiped, among them was a moon god, yes, but there were much more than just a 'moon god'. There were other gods they had, so why do the anti-Islamics point at only that one moon god? Because they only see the crescents on the mosques Neither did the Pagans who worshipped this moon god simply pray 'towards' their idol, they prayed TO him. Why else do they worship him? We simply pray towards the Ka'bah but we do not pray to it nor worship it. Even initially, the Muslims had prayed towards Jerusalem. The 'moon god' had never meant anything to Islam. We worship Allah (swt) alone.

Islam is based on the belief of one, omnipotent, eternal God. We do not take our beliefs from any other religion of any sort. We believe that Islam had existed ever since the beginning of time, from the time of the Prophet Adam (a). Islam means 'submission'. We submit to the will of Allah (swt), and the Prophet Adam (a) had been the first Muslim because he had done this.

God bless, brother
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