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Old 06-26-2010, 04:31 AM
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Default May I have your valuable comments on these verses of Guru Arjun DevJi of Sikhism?

A A? A A ????? ? Behold! The Lord God is totally pervading each and every heart.
???? ?? ?? ???? ??? ???? ??? ???? ? Forever and ever, the Guru's wisdom has been the Destroyer of pain. {{{Guru Arjan Dev Ji, Raag Gauree 260}}}

He is the primal Lord, but He is known through a true Guru, that meets if pre writ in one's destiny.
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Old 06-28-2010, 04:31 AM
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Yep... he lives in everyone heart, except the people who spread hatred
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Old 07-02-2010, 04:31 AM
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It's the kind of thing that, when I read it, I wonder if the writer actually believes any of it. I mean, seriously, how can anyone believe in anything for which there is zero evidence, and claim to know details about it, again with zero evidence? It's obvious that such writings are either personal delusions, or designed to entrance the gullible.

Nothing real requires faith.
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Old 07-04-2010, 04:31 AM
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I have no words about Guru Arjan Devji!

first of all I would like to say all of you that Sikhism not any another religion instead of Hinduism

so never try to take away Sikhs from the Hinduism

Sikhism is not a separate thing it is part and partial of Hinduism

however in the end I would like to show a words which are given by someone a great thinker

i.e. like this

1 Rte gar am...

1 lo gar am...

1 Malina garam...

1 deg garam...

1 pani garam...

Poan wala garam....

But thande san sirf " SHRI GURU ARJUN DEV SAHIB "...Jinaneaesi Thand payiki ajj tak Thhande pani diyan Chhbillan chaldiyan ne!!!

Aao assi Guru g di Shahidi nu yaad karidiyan "Sarbatt De Bhale" leyi ardas kariye...........

WAHEGURU G KA KHALSA..........WAHEGURU JI KI FATEH !!!!
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Old 07-06-2010, 04:31 AM
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1) Pervading God and the need of a Guru:

Guru Granth Sahib, Page 260, Pauris or Stanzas 17 &18:

A A? A A ??? ????? ?
haero ghatt ghatt sagal kai poor rehae bhagavaan ||
???? ??? ??? ??? ?? ???? ??? ????? ?
Behold! The Lord God is totally pervading each and every heart.
17 ???? ?.?. (?: ?) ???? ????? ????? : ??? ??? ??. ??
(Raag Gauri, Guru Arjan Dev Ji, fifth of the Ten Gurus of Sikhism)

???? ?? ?? ???? ??? ???? ??? ???? ?
hovath aaeae sadh sadheev dhukh bhanjan gur giaan ||
???? ?? ?? ???? ??? ???? ??? ???? ?
Forever and ever, the Guru's wisdom has been the Destroyer of pain.
18 ???? ?.?. (?: ?) ???? ????? ????? : ??? ??? ??. ??
(Raag Gauri, Guru Arjan Dev Ji)

Imagine all of us are in a very very vast dark room. God is every where. Few true Gurus are here and there. Others are struggling to get the Real Truth in the pitch dark. Each Pious Guru identifies his sishyas and gives special eye-sights to see them and through the guru the ever pervading GOD!

2) Omnipresent God:

Guru Granth Sahib, Page 260, Pauri or Stanza 16:

naanak sabh mehi rav rehiaa thhaan thhananthar soe ||1||
???? ?? ??? ??? ???? ??? ?????? ??? ???
O Nanak, the Lord is pervading everywhere; He is contained in all spaces and interspaces.
16 ???? ?.?. (?: ?) ???? ????? ????? : ??? ??? ??. ??
(Raag Gauri, Guru Arjan Dev Ji)

(ii) Mudal Alwars Vaibhava or Episode:

Poigai Alwar, Budat Alwar and Pey Alwar are the first three Alwars ( Mudal Alwars) and were contemporaries to each other.

All the three were so much devoted to the Lord and they were constantly meditating and moving from place to place like mendicants offering obeisance at various temples consecrated to Lord Narayana. They had not known each other, never met and thus were perfect strangers.

Once, they chanced to meet at 'Tirukkoyilur' accidentally. Feeling sleepy at nightfall, Poigai Alwar found a small pial at the entrance of a house just enough for a single person to lie down and sleep.

After a while, there came Budat Alwar who requested permission to stay with him. Poigai Alwar permitted him saying that the pial was sufficient for two people to just sit down and spend the night.

No sooner had they seated themselves, than came there Pey Alwar also seeking a place to rest. It had by then started to rain.

The two earlier occupants accommodated the newcomer saying that the three could stand as the space was just enough to spend the night.

As they started to share their experiences, they found that an invisible fourth person was trying to turn the company into a crowd by pressing them hard together in an obvious attempt to accommodate Himself in the already cramped space. The three Alwars found out in their divine vision that the fourth person was none other than Lord Vishnu, who had brought them together there!

3) Note:

Being neither a scholar in Sikhism nor an expert in the vast scripts of Hinduism, the knowledge of the answerer is limited.
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Old 07-09-2010, 04:31 AM
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"He is the primal Lord, but he is known through a true Guru, that meets if Prue writ in one' destiny", these words immediately, made me remember Adi Sankaracharya's Viveka Chudamani lines,

a. "Durlabham traumasIvaanushyatvam, Mumukshatvam, Mahapurusha samsraya".

With Sri.SVR.ji's answer the fourth person 'God' himself is Mahapurusha, whose samsraya
(presence), is proved by the three alwars.

'Ekam Sat, Vipra bahudaa vadanthi', is the answer of all noble souls, of all religions, the golden
words of Gurus are thus 'Gurubanis'
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Old 07-11-2010, 04:31 AM
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You can read the complete Shanda here :
http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=260&L=17&id=1 1517
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