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Old 06-22-2010, 07:00 AM
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Default If Sikhism is not an Abrahmic religion , then why does it repeatedly mentions angel "

I vie been reading the Sikh scripture today ; I came across a verse that said " Azrael shall capture & hit ( or kill ) them " ;
The verse seems to make little sense , but what is important that Sikh scripture mentions this angel many times ;
How !!??
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Old 06-27-2010, 07:00 AM
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people everywhere knew/know about angels, not just the traditions of Abraham
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Old 06-29-2010, 07:00 AM
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Azreal comes once, the name Ram and Kishan come 1000's of times. If you are a Sikh, you are automatically a Hindu.

SIKHISM - is a great offshoot of Hinduism. Read this site http://www.beliefnet.com/Faiths/Sikhism/... AND WNW.sikhnet.com

SIKHISM -

To understand Sikhism you have to understand Hinduism. Hinduism is not Christianity and Islam which are codified religions, and have a book and a prophet. Hinduism has originated from various rituals tribal customs and social life over the centuries. Hinduism has 1000?s of Gods and Goddesses and various diverse thoughts.

Predominant amongst these thoughts is a way of life called Sanatan Dharma which more than 60% of the Hindus follow, and this is generally mistaken as Hinduism, and the other thoughts are treated as offshoots of Hinduism. The real truth is that Hinduism means Sanatan Dharma AND all the other thoughts. Sikhism is but one of these thoughts.

Firstly, the British with their policy of divide and rule, and secondly, political turmoil and hatred between Hindus and Sikhs has put the idea of a separate identity in the mind of us Sikhs. Many of my co-coreligionists will say ? but we have different ideas as compared to Hinduism. Sure - I agree that we are different in ways but there are 50 ? 100 major different thoughts within Hinduism and we are BUT one of them.

Do you understand ? Whereas fundamentalist Sikhs we say that we are 1 amongst 7 great world religions the fact is that there are actually 4 great religions. One - Christianity has various branches - Catholic, Protestant, Methodist, Adventist, etc. Second ? Islam has various branches - Shia, Sunni, Ahmediya etc. There is Judaism and finally Hinduism ( which is a collection of various beautiful thoughts like Buddhism, Sanatana Dharma, Sikhism, Jainism, Arya Samajists, Vaishnav, Shaivaites Manbhum, Santhal etc )

So Sikhism is born out of Hinduism. Guru Nanak was born a Hindu, he was a traveling holy man who followed a custom of Sant Mat ( or Saint Tradition ) quite popular amongst saints those days. It was a thought he inculcated in his believers and told them to learn it. His believers were called Sikhs as Sikh means ? ?to learn? We had 9 more Gurus. Yes Guru Nanak also took some minor feedback from Islam but that is the nature of Hinduism ? to absorb from everyone.

KHALSA

Was created about 200 years later by the 10th Guru in 1699 to give Sikhs a unique identity and some more wonderful beliefs. The Guru's first 5 Khalsas were called Panj Pyaras. However this wonderful concept of Khalsa has been altered by Khalsas themselves.

Because almost every 'Khalsa' breaks his religious laws. Of the 5 K?s the Kesh ( hair and beard, eyebrows, body hair ) is shorn by a massive ( maybe 99 %, yes 99 % ) majority of the young 'Khalsa', weather they are in the UK or the fields of Punjab . Even the 'Khalsa's who keep the hair will reject 3 other physical symbols. For convenience sake - without batting an eyelid. Ask a religious 'Khalsa', - if you take so much trouble over maintaining your hair at the right length, do you keep ?the Kacha? ( large undergarment / drawers ) or do you wear a Calvein Klein brand of underwear. Do you keep ?the Kanga? ( comb ) of the right length or only a miniature Kanga ? for convenience sake ? The ?Kara? is convenient so almost everyone ( including I ) wear it.

There is nothing wrong with this though - a dynamic religion will not lay too much emphasis on rituals - it will change, progress and become stronger with time. That is why Sikhism is a great religion today
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Old 07-02-2010, 07:00 AM
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Well,Guru Granth sahib is a poetry. These versions had been delivered when Gurus talked with the Hindus, Muslims, Jains, Buddhists etc. So when Guru(s) talked with those people, their vocabulary was used. In Guru Granth Sahib, gist of the Shanda is contained in pause which means stop and think. Sometimes there are two pauses meaning is same. In shadsD'Sheree there is no pause gist is normally in last one or two lines of the Shanda. Guru first talked about others and at the end he gave his explanation. Any way good question. Intelligent people put queries of this nature and for answer you need to search Guru Granth Sahib not any other source.

Edit: Oops is a lunatic shivvingIkehose only job is to interfere in sikh questions. just ignore him, sikhs are at equal distant from Hindu as well as Muslims. If you are reading Guru Granth you will find mention of words Ved( 4 Hindu scriptures) and Kateb(four books of Muslims) at the same place. Ram, Kishan , Allah, rahim, karim etc came several times in Guru Granth Sahib as name of the God. Where Ram is used for Ram Chandra context is very clear like Rovey Ram Nikala Bhaiya(Ram cried when he was exiled) Ram gayaia Ravan Gaiya(Ram is gone and Ravan is also gone means no human lives permanently). Similar story is of Krishna. Sikhs are not Hindus nor they are associates of Hindus that is why Hindus killed thousands of Sikhs and it started from the era of the Gurus(All the hill rajahas who tried to kill Guru Gobind Singh were Hindus)

You may read this article on this subject:
http://www.sikhspectrum.com/112007/guru_nanak.htm
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