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Old 05-07-2010, 03:58 AM
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Default Sikhism : What do you think about this ......... happening at hajur sahib?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAlKRV4uGn8&feature=related
They say they do it for giving Tilak (mark ) to Shasta's .
So , do Shasta's are thirsty of blood ?

Also , why don't one of the evaders sacrifice himself instead of a goat ? Bil Chuck MFA
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Old 05-12-2010, 03:58 AM
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This is the first time I?m seeing animal slaughtering. After seeing this video really I felt shock and very SAD

(I don't know what is that occasion but it is sad to see innocent animals slaughtered by greedy men)
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Old 05-14-2010, 03:58 AM
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Sacrificing any thing to please God is forbidden in Sikhism. These Nihangs are probably the cannabis edicts.

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The second Shabad referred by Brother Jagjit Singh tells us story otherwise, it does not condemn killing or meat. Here Guru Sahib quoted Hindu books(Puranas) to the Brahman who hated meat.
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It was the habit of the gods to kill rhinoceros and perform sacred feasts after burnt offerings.
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They, who abandon meat and hold their nose when sitting near it, devour men at night.
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They practice hypocrisy and make a show of it to men but they know not God's gnosis and meditation.
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Nanak what can be said to the blind man? He can reply not and nor understands he what is said to him. {{{Guru Nanak Dev Ji, Raag Malaar 1289}}}

The following shabad is related with sacrificing animals on the name of religion, it is also not regarding eating meat. The above shabad tells us the general state of Brahmans that time, who hated meat that time( those who were eating it, were doing secretly,even today brahmans do not eat meat), so the following shabad is not related with meat eating and if someone quotes it, when he tries to tell meat eating is forbidden in Sikhism, he is not using the shabad in right context. All of us are agree sacrificing animals to please God/gods is forbidden in Sikhism.

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Thou kill life and deem that as religious act. Tell me then, O my brother, what makes an irreligious act?
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Thou call thyself an excellent sage. Then whom call thou a butcher?
Read the full shabad
http://www.srigranth.org/servlet/gurbani.gurbani?Action=KeertanPage&K=1103&L=2&id=4 7392

In Bachitara Natak, there is mention of Killing of bears, pigs, Rhoses by Guru Gobind Singh(Many do not believe in Bachitra Natak as writing of Guru Gobind Singh but they can not deny Bachitra Natak as historic document).
Hari Singh Nalwa can not be Nalwa without killing of a Lion. He frequently used to go to hunting.
When Bhai Subegh Singh and Shahbaz Singh approached Khalsa in the forests, as per Ratan Singh Bhangu(He was grand son of shaheed brother mehtab singh who sent massa ranghar to hell)," Manh Prsaad(meat) was being cooked".
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Old 05-17-2010, 03:58 AM
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You have very well pointed out this tyranny on sentient beings being happened since very beginning after King Ranjit Singh had done Kaar Sewa of this place, while going from there, he had left his 500 soldiers to continue service of this place on salary of king.
It is regretted to point out that neither political leader nor religious leader ever dared to take any step to stop this non sense practice by so called Sewadaars. These fellows are making lame excuses to continue this practice for their own relish of tongue.
Time and again I have opposed this in this bog, at least we (congregation) should protest and if possible stop visiting there for some time as protest to stop this forbidden practice. Though some religious people like Sant Singh Maskin had condemned this.
S's S's ?? ???? ??? ????? ????? ???? ?? ??? ?
??? ???? ?? ???? ??? ????? ????? ???? ?? ??? ?
Thou kill life and deem that as religious act. Tell me then, O my brother, what makes an irreligious act?
??? ?? ?????? ??? ????? ?? ?? ???? ???? ???
??? ?? ?????? ??? ????? ?? ?? ???? ???? ???
Thou call thyself an excellent sage. Then whom call thou a butcher?
{{{Bhagat Kabeer Ji, Raag Maaroo 1103}}}

????? ???? ??? ?? ??? ?????? ?? ???? ?
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It was the habit of the gods to kill rhinoceros and perform sacred feasts after burnt offerings.
???? ???? ???? ??? ????? ???? ???? ???? ?
???? ???? ???? ??? ?????? ???? ???? ???? ?
They, who abandon meat and hold their nose when sitting near it, devour men at night.
??? ??? ????? ?? ???????? ????? ????? ??? ???? ?
???? ??? ????? ?? ???????? ????? ????? ??? ???? ?
They practice hypocrisy and make a show of it to men but they know not God's gnosis and meditation.
???? ???? ??? ??? ???? ??? ? ???? ???? ?
???? ???? ??? ??? ???? ??? ? ???? ???? ?
Nanak what can be said to the blind man? He can reply not and nor understands he what is said to him. {{{Guru Nanak Dev Ji, Raag Malaar 1289}}}
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Old 05-20-2010, 03:58 AM
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This is against our religion...............................
Those people need to get fired........ What the hell.................
That video scared me.. It's SOoohl.................... OMGGGGGGGgggggggggggggg
We need to figure out a way to take action against those stupidityTyeople................
That should be your next question.
Let's figure this out!!
Urghh!!! Those stupiddddddddddddddddddddd peoplleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
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