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Old 11-03-2009, 04:15 AM
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Default pagen v.s. taoism... which came first? 10 points!!!!!?

which spiritual belief came first?
my bf said that pa gen was the first practice of all spiritual belief and that even Taoism branched and originated from it
i think Taoism was first, but if anyone can give me the first practiced belief, that would be most excellent!!!
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Old 11-04-2009, 04:15 AM
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Paganism.
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Old 11-09-2009, 04:15 AM
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Paganism is a blanket term that covers many belief systems. Pagan itself is not a belief system.
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Old 11-14-2009, 04:15 AM
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Etymologically speaking, pagan was just a word before it was a religion.
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Old 11-15-2009, 04:15 AM
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Tao is a Pagan belief. Pagan beliefs are generally considered any of the non-Abrahamic ones. Most likely some form of shamanism was first which would have been Pagan.
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Old 11-19-2009, 04:15 AM
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paganism- Hinduism.
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Old 11-24-2009, 04:15 AM
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It's spelled p-a-g-A-n. And paganism probably happened first. Spirit worship and all...
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Old 11-27-2009, 04:15 AM
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Paganism is much older. Your "BF" is correct. Taoism is around 5,000 years old.
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Old 11-29-2009, 04:15 AM
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Since Pagan would mean any religion other than the Jeudeo-Christian and there were religions long before Taoism....Pagan religions are older but very doubtful that any of these originals still exists today.
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Old 12-01-2009, 04:15 AM
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Old 12-03-2009, 04:15 AM
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Paganism is not a "spiritual" belief - it is a "religious" belief since religion is man-made. Yes; Taoism did branch from religion [paganism] , as it is man-made. Your boy friend is correct.
It is a natural, "built-in", human, state of being to desire a relationship with someone or something to fill a void in ones life. Whether it be "religious" or "spiritual" , with something or someone - apart from the self.
Authentic Christianity is spiritually cent red; whereas, Atheistic and all other "religious" beliefs chase after the physical or the material to fill this void. No human has nor ever, will, live in a complete vacuum ! Whatever, one serves is his or her own god ... it's "either" ... "or" !!!
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Old 12-05-2009, 04:15 AM
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Well, as it happens Swifty,
I do know the precise answer to this one.

About ten thousand years ago, there was a massive disruption in human being upon this planet. This caused a split into two distinct groups - one practicing insanity and the other attempting to maintain the previous harmony.

The last major crunch between them came in the 15 Th century when the catholic church, the principle molders of the insanity path at that time (a role now taken over by the pharmaceutical conglomerate, Monsanto and their ilk) chose to attempt the complete extermination of those preserving the ancient ways.

The pagans are the natural decedents of our ancient history (even though they no longer know much of it). The Taoist way is much, much later and one of the many attempts to reconcile humanity with itself once more.

So, Paganism has its roots a very long time before the Tao but the Tao has managed to mostly maintain the integrity of the teachings.

The answer, therefore, is a question of degree which denies a yes/no conclusion.

Blessed be.

Karma Singh
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Old 12-07-2009, 04:15 AM
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Most concur that Lao Tzu was born either in the 4Th or 6Th century BCE. That would make Taoism be at the MOST less than 3,000 years old, if you consider the Tao-Te Ching to be the beginning of true Taoism.

Now, documented practice of Hellenismos began a little bit after that time. As far as the Romans, their religion was begun before the 6Th century BCE. Besides this, considering the vast amount of religions which fall under the pagan category (some even consider Taoism to be a pagan religion), I'd say that yes, paganism is older than Taoism, assuming that Taoism isn't pagan to begin with.

edit: Oh yeah, and the ancient Egyptian religion is several thousand years older than Taoism.
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