why dont chrisitins and muslims convert to pagan wicca... more peaceful etc.?
Why dint Christin's and Muslims convert to pagan Wicca.
Simpl;y on the basis of its into equal rights for women genuinely. Into caring and peace and respect for nature.
Which no history of mass abuse, wars or repression.
So why not mass conversion for a better world?
Note from an atheist operating on logic... IE the pagan lot appear to be nicest to others. And most into equality and ain't heard of a witch war.
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Some mentioned it being evil...
Where is you logical argument that its evil?
Mine is looking at all the stoniness and hanging in Islamic countires, or the torture and killing of the inquisition.
Or having seen gays be peacful and nice seeing it even to treat them bad.
Or kiddie abusing kids homes. Calling kids whos parents were not married bastards
ie evil = hurting people who have not hurt others. Being mean
Whilst by comparision...
Only seen peaceful behavour from wicca types.
No repression of girls, high priestesses being girls.
Therefore as nice surely that means they are good.
Plus no concept of a devil so why devil worship?
More like tree hugging worship.
Therefore good as nice and caring and fair.
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Pagan Wicca converted to Christianity, fool! why force religion on or change religion of anybody? geeesh! '
Well how about no more relgious wars, repression of girls and gays etc...
more peaceful world and more equality?
Even if its all tripe...
its peaceful nice tripe.
More so not rubbish... The herbal potions are simply herbal medicine ie aspirin came from willow tree bark.
Much of it is psychology ie wear a love band and you will find love. (dumbos magic feather giving dumbo confidence and making him more outgoing comes to mind)
And the chill out music and josticks etc does chill you out.
The vast majority of the world's Christians and Muslims live very peacefully. I think many Christian women would be puzzled to hear you say that their religion doesn't treat women equally.
In Prue-Christian times young girls were often sacrificed to the sun or the moon etc. I'm sure the moon really appreciated all those dead bodies.
than who guarantees that when Wicca get more power and in majority they won't fight. Its not because of religion, but people want to get more power and resources.
You want them to admit they were wrong all along? Why be peaceful when you can feel superior to others, have your own private club with privileges and be allowed to justify your insane behavior. Being pagan would be nice because it would also mean that we would take much better care of our environment (but there is no profit in that!) and we would stop discrimination and we would stop the abuse on women and the spanking of children...how can Christians and Muslim ever claim to be peaceful is beyond me!
And mini metro: the whole christian religion revolves around the inequality between men and women....unless they start having female popes!
they wont because they believe that they are right & you are wrong
but i think the world would be a better place to live in
these religions are all about controlling people and power to the few & they dint want to let that slip away
threes none of that with paganism
just a love for all things
"Why dint Christin's and Muslims convert to pagan Wicca... more peaceful etc.?"
Some of us ex-Christians HAVE. Myself and my hubby, for example.
But neither one of us would recommend or support wholesale conversion.
People who need to make others wrong in order to feel right about their own choices would not do well in Wicca.
People who need to have a personification of evil to explain the world's ills or their own bad behavior would not last.
People for whom Paganism (in any of its forms) is the right spiritual path find us on their own. There's no need to propose mass conversions, and we don't recruit.
They don't convert because everyone has their own path to follow. That is a big part of Wicca, respecting others beliefs and not proselytizing and trying to convert them.
While I agree that Wicca is more peaceful then the monotheistic religions; if you set out to convert people to Wicca or you'd be no better then a Fundie.
Also, while Wicca doesn't have a bad history like Christianity and Islam, you have to keep in mind its only been around for about 50 some years.
Besides, what about us non-Wiccan Pagans? You think we should convert to Wicca too?
Dude--if you think pagans are more peaceful, you haven't been a pagan very long.
I take it you've missed all the arguments and witch wars and catty backstabbing and drama. I've seen tons of it, in person and on line, in the decade I've been pagan.
The only reason Wicca hasn't started any wars is because it's SIXTY YEARS OLD. That's not long enough for it to become so foundered in its own dogma that it become a political power instead of a religion.
Pagans are human. So are Christians. We all have human faults like insecurity. We just express them in different ways due to numbers and both personal and collective power. If Wicca were the dominant paradigm I guarantee you there's be wars in the name of the Goddess. Religion is just an excuse for wars and other stupidity, and it all depends on who has the power, not what they believe. ANY religion can be corrupted--just listen to the idiots who think that the Wiccan Rede and the Threefold Law are universal Holy Writ for everyone--THAT'S dogma right there.
In other words, quit being a pagan fun die. This kind of behavior is a big part of the reason why I really get frustrated with the pagan community sometimes. Get down off your high horse, quit being OMGSOPERSECUTED! and get it through your skull that we are all HUMAN.
"Which no history of mass abuse, wars or repression....So why not mass conversion for a better world?"
How do you propose that? Force everyone to join??? So much for your not repressing people part....
Because it isn't really all that peaceful. Have you never heard of the "witch wars" of New York in the 1970's? Or the numerous coven rivalries?
Although Wicca isn't an ancient Pagan religion by any means the Pagan religions of the past were from peaceful either! You may find this hard to believe, but Roman Pagans used to throw Christians to the lions. An estimated 3 million Christians or so were murdered during "The Lion Times".
Also, women fared far better under Christianity than they did under Paganism, hence many early converts to Christianity were women. For instance, in many ancient European Pagan cultures women were expected to kill themselves if they had been raped. Women couldn't inherit their husband's property upon his death and would often times throw themselves upon the funeral pyre die with them. Christianity changed all that.
why dont chrisitins and muslims convert to pagan wicca... more peaceful etc.?
