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Old 05-28-2010, 03:18 PM
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Default Why do I feel excluded from Wicca because i'm a guy?

I just feel like I don't fit in because of the people and books(except the ones by Scott Cunningham) that assume that all Wiccans are female. I'm 16 years old and the only people I have ever met personally that are Wiccan have all been girls. I'm not asking if this what I should believe because I know it is and I have been a Wicca for over a year now, I just want some advice on how I can feel less discriminated against(No offense ladies).

And don't tell me that I should be a christian instead, because I was one for 8 years of my life and it did nothing for me, except make me mad and pissed off.
Ming, I'm not gay. Don't know where you got that at, but just thought I'd clear it up.
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Old 05-30-2010, 03:18 PM
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Hmmm... Maybe you're the trend setter? Maybe if you hold firm and represent the men in your group, you can pave the way so that other guys won't feel discriminated against.
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Old 05-31-2010, 03:18 PM
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Just remember Sully Erna is also a Wiccan. And if you play around on forums, you'll find more male Wiccans, too.
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Old 06-05-2010, 03:18 PM
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Wicca is an ancient belief system that dates back to before the patriarchal religions that have so much power today. As it's a nature-based female centered belief system, it's only natural that much of the followers would be female.

Don't let that deter you. If this is the belief system for you, go for it.
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Old 06-09-2010, 03:18 PM
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Wicca is a very female oriented religion. and yes many do focus on the feminine aspect and assume that all Wiccans are women. I know of one author that has a book specifically for male Wiccans, Christopher Penczak, his book is called "Sons of the Goddess". and dint be discouraged by the small number of men in Wicca, any Wiccan will tell you that the God is just as important as the Goddess, unless they re Dianastic Wiccans who only worship the Goddess. remain strong my brother, we are the male half of all things, the sun to their moon, the fire to their water, the strength to their nurturing spirits
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Old 06-12-2010, 03:18 PM
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Well then certainly don't bother researching Danica Wicca. It's basically sexist. I'd suggest looking into covens (make sure they have a high priestess AND a high priest, that reflects some of the coven's beliefs) or even solitary Wicca. I bet being a Wiccan man you feel out of place a lot, comparable to how a woman must feel if they're Amish. But hey, I'm not speaking from experience... I think that part of the reason for Wicca seeming sexist is because it at first was a balancing act. There were all these patriarchal religions that honored a Father, and Wicca comes along, a religion that honors the Mother as well as the Father. Caught up in the balancing act, some vicunas forgot about the Father aspect. But I strongly disagree with the idea that vicunas can only be female. I would suggest joining Wilcox to connect with other Wiccan males and share how you feel about some of the sexism in Wicca. There are also quite a few Wiccan men on YouTube such as Krazyboytx, spiritual pagan, canals, athairfiachdubh, and many others I can't think of right now :P As for authors, cunningham is good, so is Raymond buckland. Stay away from silver ravenwolf though, since she supports the idea that all wiccans are female. I really hope I helped and good luck! Blessed be and happy Yule!!
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Old 06-15-2010, 03:18 PM
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OK vicunas usually do not discriminate against gay people .i am a dyed in the wool pagan and we have a couple of lesbian woman and a gay man in our coven , we do not even think about it . its not a big deal .if you have read anything by Scott or Ray buck land remember the Wicca read do as you will but harm none! this is the golden rule of all pagan groups Wicca druid or eclectic pagan. PS all vicunas are pagan but all pagans are not Wicca , their is a difference in the groups it will have to be your choice in the path you take either way sometimes i feel most comfortable in a mostly female surrounding i find the female aspect and the goddess to be more nurturing .blessed be and good luck in you path
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:18 PM
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Wiccan adults tend to be more evenly divided between male and female. I'd recommend broadening your experiences.
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Old 06-21-2010, 03:18 PM
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It's because you are sixteen, bud. I had the same problem. As I've gotten a bit older, I've met quite a few more male Wiccans. It's nice to talk to other males who hold the same views as me, but don't discount the females either. Some of the most wise things I've heard were from the mouths of female Wiccans.

As a side note, the founders of the first two Trads were male.
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Old 06-25-2010, 03:18 PM
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It's because you're younger. You'll find a lot more Wiccans/Pagans once you're in college, so not too far off! Try starting a Wiccan Student Union (or something to that effect) if the University/College you attend doesn't have one already; you'd be surprised at the variety of people that show up! Heck, I knew a few people in high school who were Wiccan and a lot of them were guys. It might also have to do with some people not being open with their religion when they're younger as well. You'll find them; you just have to wait until college and after wards to find the wider spectrum of Wiccans.
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Old 06-28-2010, 03:18 PM
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I can't explain your feelings. I can, however, tell you that I know a roughly equal number of male and female adult traditional Wiccans. It may simply be that you are ahead of your time as Wicca does seem to be the pagan religion that appeals more to younger females who are just discovering the Goddess while younger males who are interested in pagan religions and witchcraft tend to go a more 'occult' route initially before they get to Wicca.

Try finding some of the information on Wicca for men... the male mysteries, the Horned God etc. There are books out there that are written specifically for male Wiccans, specifically about a mans relationship to the Goddess and to the God, about the role men play in Wicca etc. Wicca is a religion that emphasis es equality. It has has a past of being a feminist-leaning religion focusing on the Goddess, but it is coming out of this past and embracing the God along with the Goddess more and more these days and working to balance the feminine energy with the masculine aspect.

Also, just keep doing what you're doing... sometimes your perception of discrimination is more about your own sensitivity to being judged rather then any actual judgment going on. That's not to say that what you're experiencing is all in your head, but I can tell you that as you get older, this will likely fade as both you and the people around you mature and figure things out.
Try finding a teacher that can help you one-on-one... Of course, at 16, you should really wait to find a teacher until you are 18... good teachers won't accept an underage student (underage legally... it cases problems).
Have patience and perseverance. It will get better!!
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Old 06-29-2010, 03:18 PM
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You shouldn't feel excluded. I know NUMEROUS males who are Wiccan...just because you have only encountered females doesn't mean it's female oriented religion focusing on ONLY females.

Try looking at Witchvox for other male Wiccans with whom you can associate or ask questions. There are LOTS of male Wiccans on there. Also try Wiccan forum sites. There are lots of male Wiccans on there as well.
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