okay in 6 days is the next full moon. i want to get initiated into Wicca but it says i have to study for a year. i have only been studying for about 2 months...can i still do it?
OOOHH..left some things out...well yes i am learning for actually several books and i am not joining a coven or i dint have a teacher ): thanks you guys helped
thanks for every ones help...i know i sound like i wanna rush into things but...ID... but yahoo.....thanks i guess??
What's the hurry? If you're getting initiated with a coven, then you should follow what they say just like they did before you. Most covens wait the year and a day for the first degree initiation. If you are going to be a solitary, then do whatever you feel like doing.
If you are studying from a book then you can do whatever you'd like. But if you are studying with a teacher, it is extremely inadvisable to not follow what they say or do. I know you are excited and interested and want to say you are initiated *now*, but taking the time to really learn everything there is to learn is wiser than throwing yourself into the fire without being prepared for the heat. It's a lot less dangerous when you're only learning and teaching yourself from a book.
Initiation is something that is conferred on you by someone else. Operating outside of a coven, it's completely inappropriate for you.
What do you think initiation confers upon the initiate? I suspect you have a rather distorted and fantastical view of initiation.
Solitary Wiccans often perform a dedication ritual to mark formal entrance into Wicca. We strongly suggest a *minimum* year of study before doing so. This is to give you proper time to prepare. If you really think you've learned enough in two months to make a fully informed decision to make a declaration unto the gods, I suspect your view is overly simplistic.
no one is going to ask you how long you studied before dedicating. In fact, no one is going to ask whether you've gone through such a thing. That's between you and your gods. We judge people by their knowledge and actions. Newcomers who are putting forth effort and are looking for help generally get it. People who put on airs about how much they know about Wicca and then proceed to prove they know very little very quickly lose our attention.
More on becoming Wiccan:
http://wicca.timerift.net/wicca101/become_wiccan.shtml
I suggest that you self-dedicate as you begin your walk in Wicca. After you have traveled for One Year and One Day of study and reflection you will be ready for a self-initiation. i hope that makes sense. If you have any further questions on the subject feel free to contact me.
In Wicca, there is no Holy Book, no written doctrine, no divine law. The only two 'laws' that are traditionally Wiccan, and are considered to be those ideals by which we try to live, are : 1. An it harm none, do what thou wilt. 2. What thou wilt do, will come back three times. What this means, pure and simple, is that there are no "sins," such as sexual Di's and donuts, profanity, etc., AS LONG AS YOU STRIVE FOR AND AS MUCH AS HUMANLY POSSIBLE, ATTEMPT TO BRING HARM ON NO ONE!!! Ironically, the Church of Satan professes the same beliefs. In fact, one of the leading members of the Church of Satan alleged that America is an absolute "Satanic nation" because of the extent of our freedoms. Nowhere in the world can people get away with as much as Americans do. Church of Satanists define Satanism as being able to do anything a person wants to do (just so long as no one is getting hurt). The Church of Satan openly professes their belief and allegiance to Satan. On the other hand, Wiccans deny Satan. Wiccans vehemently deny the existence of a devil. They attribute the term "Satan" as being the sole invention of Christians. Wiccans claim to follow the god of light. Interestingly, "Lucifer" means just that...bearer of light. 2ND Corinthians 11:14 warns us that Satan appears as the "light." Howbeit, BOTH Wiccans and Satanists profess the same lack of absolutes within their religions. The Word of God is a Book of ABSOLUTES! God is absolute and unchangeable (Malachi 3:6). Wiccans are greatly angered over the FACT that the Word of God is absolute, whereas they have no absolutes! The Bible is our FINAL AUTHORITY! The Biblical concepts of sin, evil, wickedness, judgment, and redemption are NOT recognized by the Wiccan religion. Wiccans profess belief in "Karma" (the effects of a person's actions that determine his destiny in his next incarnation). Wiccans believe in reincarnation. I recently received an e-mail from an angry Wiccan woman (a witch). She bomblasted me for saying that Wiccans don't have a means of forgiveness within their religion. She specified that she believed in the "karma," that the life she lives here on earth will determine her happiness in her reincarnated body. She said I had no right to make a moral judgment upon her religion. The problem is that Wiccans don't see their wrong doing as "sin." In fact, Wicca is perfectly acceptant of many practices which the Word of God declares an "abomination unto God." One such evil practice is homosexuality. Occult doctrines such as Yin-Yang are extremely popular with the homosexual community because of the fact that there are NO absolutes. The TRUTH is that there is no way for Wiccans to deal with sin...because they don't acknowledge their sins as being sinful in the first place. Since the Witches don't believe in sin, their entire moral conscience is obliterated (and their minds corrupted). The result is that many sinful activities which are condemned in God's Word are openly practiced by witches...such as sexual immorality during their occult rituals... We conceive of the Creative Power in the Universe as manifesting through polarity ? as masculine and feminine ? and that this same creative Power lives in all people, and functions through interaction of the masculine and feminine. We value neither above the other, knowing each to be supportive of the other. We value sexuality as pleasure, as the symbol and embodiment of Life, and as one of the sources of energies used in magickal practice and religious worship. -Principles of Wiccan Belief, Article IV (1974) The Word of God presents us with the law, which condemns us, and then points us to Christ for salvation (Galatians 3:24, "Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith"). Since the Wiccans don't recognize God's law (and have no written law of there own), they have no yardstick by which to measure themselves. How does a witch recognize sin without the measuring stick of God's law? They cannot! So for a witch to tell me that she is morally obligated to live right for the sake of Karma (her future reincarnate life) is no morality at all. As I mentioned earlier, Wiccans are openly acceptant of sexual sins which are Biblically prohibited. You can't just decide for yourself what is right and wrong. The whole reason why God gave us the Old Testament Law was to give us the KNOWLEDGE OF SIN (Romans 3:20, "Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin"). The Apostle Paul said in Romans 7:13 that the Law made his sins EXCEEDING SINFUL! Wiccans have no knowledge of sin because they deliberately reject Christ and His Eternal Word. Some Wiccans accuse Christians of trying to "scare" people with the Bible. The truth is that the Word of God is an extremely frightening Book to those who would dare reject and disobey it's COMMANDS. Acts 17:30 reads , "...but now commandeth all men every where to rep
Nightwind has the right of it- you're talking about a dedication, not an initiation, and no one is going around checking the "papers" of solitary desiccants. If you're a solitary, it's your standards that matter, right?
I agree with Nightwind and Labgrl, but then, I usually do . What you should do is dedicate yourself to the full year-and-day study. Initiation is like stepping into a ministerial or priestly position. you have to know what you are doing before you do it. I initiated too early as a solitary many years ago - and I found that I was not ready for the s*t-storm of issues that followed. Knowing who you are is as important as knowing what you are doing. Slow down. You can be Wiccan without initiation - be a student first. The journey is as important as the destination.
You know...the full moon that's coming is NOT the only full moon that's ever going to take place. Do the study properly or you are only hurting your own progress. If you're in too much of a hurry to do your initiation before you're ready to take on the label of Wiccan, you're going to miss much important information.
Study right, there will be thousands of full moons in the future.
can i get initiated into wicca so soon?
. What you should do is dedicate yourself to the full year-and-day study. Initiation is like stepping into a ministerial or priestly position. you have to know what you are doing before you do it. I initiated too early as a solitary many years ago - and I found that I was not ready for the s*t-storm of issues that followed. Knowing who you are is as important as knowing what you are doing. Slow down. You can be Wiccan without initiation - be a student first. The journey is as important as the destination.
